AMD RyZen CPU Architecture for 2017

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  1. Arnold Beckenbauer

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    After this video I don't think it will come
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    Real or fake? 3D Mark 2011 results,

    my A10-9600P results http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/12098775
     
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    Watched it for laughs. Pretty funnywhen they even have indexes open on their web server to browse the images and html files.
     
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    To be honest, the whole video seems pretty ignorant about what happened between ClickArm/Rhomb and Smach Z, or how prototype development works in general for smaller companies.
    Rhomb was both an initial investor and hardware maker for Smach. Rhomb got into disagreements with Smach so they left the development for the production model of Smach Z. Rhomb did make Smach Z's early prototype / proof of concept, built around some chinese PCB with an Atom SoC that Linx happens to use in their tablets too. It would be stupid for a company like Rhomb to use a custom PCB for an early prototype to show investors, it's too much of a risk.

    And if I had to guess about the problems between Smach and Rhomb, it's definitely related to timing. That Merlin Falcon board is coming too late for a gaming device, as 2017's newest 10nm SoCs from apple, qualcomm and samsung would probably surpass 28nm Carrizo's performance. Probably even the Switch could be seen as a better gaming device. Merlin Falcon Smach Z had to release early this year or late last year.
    If they in fact got an OEM on board that brings Raven Ridge during H1 2018, then it's a whole other story.

    And if AMD themselves are working with them on this (after not winning Nintendo, this could be spectacular for marketing!), their chances would be even better.

    However I simply don't know how they're going to fit two SO-DIMMs, a M.2 SSD expansion and a Raven Ridge motherboard in here:

    [​IMG]
     
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    What's the fastest memory speed Ryzen can be tweaked to work with today? 3466-3600?

    Does it make sense to buy 4000+ kits expecting they will be supported in the future with future Zen models?
     
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    I have managed to be stable in everything except fallout 4 at 3600, get some really strange stuttering after about 5 minutes, runs fine at 3466 CAS 14.
    Its like fallout is the perfect memory torture , memory is rated for 3600 CAS 15.
     
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    GLOBALFOUNDRIES Introduces New 12nm FinFET Technology for High-Performance Applications
    Zen+ in 12LP?
     
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    Slightly off topic, but GF also said they're working with Tesla using AMD IP. That could influence a push to a smaller node and Raven APUs would surely benefit from less power along with cars. Assuming AMD has to transition the IP to a smaller node at the very least.
     
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    10% increase in performance is pretty good. If the average Ryzen CPU hits 4.2 GHz across all cores instead of 3.8 that'd be a nice boost. They really need to fix the issues with the memory though, you can't expect everyone to just buy Samsung B-die, especially right now with the crazy ram prices.
     
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    The same day that Intel announces a delay on the 10nm, they announce a surprise 12nm and confirm 7nm on track.
    :cool2:
     
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    That IBM/Samsung money is working wonders for GloFo it seems :)
     
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    The need to clock the on-die infinity fabric independetly from the DRAM. That concept is just broken.

    Ie. have it run at up to 2GHz (and lower when CPU cores go below 2GHz). That would correspond to DDR4 4000.

    Cheers
     
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    Pretty sure Intel's 10 nm will turn out to be superior to GloFo's 7 nm process.
     
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    Yes, but I'm too cool to care
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    I think the 12LP is just the 14LLP modify to high performance instead of low tdp for mobile devices. and this allow AMD to refine both architectures and stays competitive in the CPU side and less "less-competitive" in the GPU side.
     
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    Would be interesting to see how many improvements AMD made to this zen+ CPU since they already said that all zen CPUs will be Tocks and not Ticks but we can agreed that improve the memory sub system and IF and a Clocks boost to 4.3 turbo would be enough to justify. And for Vega we will see if the VEGa HW was broken or not depends of how faster this Vega+ turns out.
     
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