AMD: R7xx Speculation

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Not sure where they get 2.8x perf per MM. GT200 should be 2.25X larger, so 2.8X perf implies RV770 is actually faster in games, which we know isn't true. Must be based on flops..
 
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Why is everyone so quick to talk about the GTX 260/280 vs GX2 in a thread about AMD R7xx Speculation?

This thread needs some modding. This looks like an nVidia damage control session. Guess ATI is back in the game for real this time...
 
Now, this is really funny. Everybody was complaining about the paper launching.
This time around 4850 wasn't even released yet and people are posting own reviews all over the web. :)
And the guys under NDA have to wait!
 
in 3d mark 06, the 4850 scores the following


Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (3.6GHz)

stock
sm2:4868
sm3:5749

stock gpu mem 1100
sm2:5023
sm3:5983

gpu 700 mem 1100
sm2:5347
sm3:6420

cpu score was around 5100 in all tests

cheers
 
More Crysis HD4850 CF benches ( 660 mhz core and 1100 mhz memory, C2D E8400 at 3.80 ghz ):

1024 x 768, dx9, high, no AA
Min = 28.68
Max = 96.29
Avg = 69.44

1280 x 1024, dx9, high, no AA
Min = 32.59
Max = 86.31
Avg = 62.67

1680 x 1050, dx9, high, no AA
Min = 26.83
Max = 56.83
Avg = 43.84

1900 x 1200, dx9, high, no AA
Min = 24.93
Max = 56.83
Avg = 43.84

1024 x 768 dx9, high 4x AA
Min = 26.28
Max = 81.06
Avg = 59.21

1280 x 1024 dx9, high, 4x AA
Min = 25.47
Max = 65.51
Avg = 49.07

Source:
http://forums.anandtech.com/message...RDFRM=&STARTPAGE=62&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear
 
At elevated resolutions with AA active the GTX 280 can be surprising -


Butthis is becouse of more VRAM. Though good but resembles the benches I saw when comparing a 8800GTX vs 8800GT 512MB vs 8800GT 1GB, the later winning by a fair amount in high res, high AA situations.
 
That doesn't really answer my question, though. I specifically remember ATI doing fine without AF in the tests I'm talking about, whether they were flyby or in-game.

I'm just wondering if anyone here knows that AF is automatically enabled in the "High Quality" or "Very High Quality" settings on TR.

EDIT: Never mind. It looks like Crysis has no in-game settings for AF, so the answer is no.

Not enabled on any setting aswell as non functional if forced at very high since AF + POM = Only POM. Becosue ofthe way the engine handles textures bot hcant work together. r_usePOM 0 for benchmarkers to disable POM and have the AF enabled (if forced in CP).
 
I doubt it.

The two HD4800's are in CrossFire, but it seems the HD3870 is just a stand alone card not in CrossFire (sort of akin to workstation setups where they have mutiple VGA's running independently).

It could be, but the results seem way too high for a simple CF of HD4850...
Results seem higher than those of a 9800GX2 SLI... ;)
 
It could be, but the results seem way too high for a simple CF of HD4850...
Results seem higher than those of a 9800GX2 SLI... ;)

3DMark 06 probably loves the ALUs of the 4800s the most.


With proper sample rate and Z fill, what's not logical for them to perform like that? ;)
 
More Crysis HD4850 CF benches ( 660 mhz core and 1100 mhz memory, C2D E8400 at 3.80 ghz ):

1024 x 768, dx9, high, no AA
Min = 28.68
Max = 96.29
Avg = 69.44

1280 x 1024, dx9, high, no AA
Min = 32.59
Max = 86.31
Avg = 62.67

1680 x 1050, dx9, high, no AA
Min = 26.83
Max = 56.83
Avg = 43.84

1900 x 1200, dx9, high, no AA
Min = 24.93
Max = 56.83
Avg = 43.84

1024 x 768 dx9, high 4x AA
Min = 26.28
Max = 81.06
Avg = 59.21

1280 x 1024 dx9, high, 4x AA
Min = 25.47
Max = 65.51
Avg = 49.07

Source:
http://forums.anandtech.com/message...RDFRM=&STARTPAGE=62&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

I'm amazed that sites still bother to test Crysis at High settings on setups like these. I mean, who the hell purchases a GTX 280 or dual 4850's to play Crysis in DX9 mode?

I want to see how these cards perform at the games maximum graphics settings, anything less is an insult to these cards. If you need to drop something, drop the resolution. As if the difference between 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 is anywhere near the difference between High and Very High in Crysis :rolleyes:
 
There are some results from earlier in the thread at a 1280x1024 that are far higher than that:

http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=500923

I don't think ~14,000 is wrong for 1900x1200

Yeah, but it's with AA8x. ;)

3DMark 06 probably loves the ALUs of the 4800s the most.


With proper sample rate and Z fill, what's not logical for them to perform like that? ;)

A HD4850CF seems to do 23fps @1920x1200 AA4x in Crysis. How it can be that increasing AA to 8x you lose only 2fps? ;)
 
I'm amazed that sites still bother to test Crysis at High settings on setups like these. I mean, who the hell purchases a GTX 280 or dual 4850's to play Crysis in DX9 mode?

I want to see how these cards perform at the games maximum graphics settings, anything less is an insult to these cards. If you need to drop something, drop the resolution. As if the difference between 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 is anywhere near the difference between High and Very High in Crysis :rolleyes:

That's a regular guy on their forum. Maybe he does not have Vista on his gaming computer.
 
That's a regular guy on their forum. Maybe he does not have Vista on his gaming computer.

Fair enough, but lots of the HW sites do it as well. [H] particularly bugs me by implying the "highest" settings a GTX280 can run Crysis on is High with one setting at Medium. Thats complete bull because they have the resolution set at an insanely high 1920x1200 for such a resource intensive game.

Better to say the game runs with everything maxxed out and the highest playable resolution is 720p, or perhaps 1440x900.
 
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