AMD: R7xx Speculation

[w0mbat]

source: http://www.ati-forum.de/allgemein/news/512-his-verpackung-der-hd4850-packaging-of-the-hd4850/

 

[w0mbat]

BTW: I just found out that the RV770 is very, very fast. Its so fast that it got the FAST mark on the PCB, watch here:

BTW: This is exclusive NDA material!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

 

[stevem]

Heh, the rest's here: http://en.expreview.com/2008/05/31/real-rv770-pics-released-earlier-today/

 

[Lukfi]

And the original source is here:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/05/31/amd-radeon-hd-4850-pictured/1

Apparently, it's a dummy sample direct from the double-A team, which the companies use to get the basic gist of what they need for artwork and branding, and so that they can start working on their own cooling solutions.

 

[Jaaanosik]

4850 is on the way to OEMs and retailers.
$199 could be a new price.

 

[BRiT]

What does the new price indicate? Some might speculate it means lower than expected performance or perhaps better than expected yields.

 

[CJ]

It could also be a pre-emptive strike against NV just in case they're thinking of lowering prices for their 9800GTX/GT.

 

[XMAN26]

It could also be a pre-emptive strike against NV just in case they're thinking of lowering prices for their 9800GTX/GT.

True, but that just NV reason to = or < than that price thus defeating the purpose and yet again giving AMD small margins. Why they insist on doing that is beyond me, aren't they bleeding $$$$ enough as it is.

 

[leoneazzurro]

True, but that just NV reason to = or < than that price thus defeating the purpose and yet again giving AMD small margins. Why they insist on doing that is beyond me, aren't they bleeding $$$$ enough as it is.

Because they want market share back, maybe?

 

[XMAN26]

Because they want market share back, maybe?

If they would deliver something that can actually compete, they would get market share back.

 

[AlphaWolf]

If they would deliver something that can actually compete, they would get market share back.

you're chasing your tail.

 

[leoneazzurro]

If they would deliver something that can actually compete, they would get market share back.

To win market share, you have to be competitive in price AND performance.

 

[Jaaanosik]

If they would deliver something that can actually compete, they would get market share back.

Well, it appears 770 will be able to compete and the price is going to be set in order to get market share.

 

[trinibwoy]

AMD is well positioned in the middle of the market. They've got a nice clean product lineup that's a stark contrast to the mess at Nvidia. Low prices, strong featureset and low power consumption should be a knock out combo. Especially against the regurgitated G8x variants that they compete with.

But alas, their marketing and PR is still piss poor so none of that will probably make a difference in the end.....

 

[XMAN26]

To win market share, you have to be competitive in price AND performance.

They have the price part down, but performance is something I'm still waiting for.

 

[Wirmish]

Original graph from JC:

After some modifications...

Catalyst 8.4:
· A picture is worth a thousand words -> WiC avg FPS.

Catalyst 8.5 :
· Call of Juarez DX10: Performance increases up to 12% on systems containing an ATI Radeon HD 3000
· World in Conflict DX10: Performance increases up to 25% on systems containing an ATI Radeon HD 3800.
· Higher performance gains are noticed on systems contianing an ATI Radeon 3870 X2.

 

[AlphaWolf]

yay for meaningless BS PR graphs. What are those numbers even representing?

 

[ZerazaX]

Just an internal Nvidia PR performance test with Cat 8.3 (lol) drivers

Either way though, if 4870 is ~ 3870X2 speeds, then 4870X2 can certainly compete with the GTX260 if not 280

 

[XMAN26]

Just an internal Nvidia PR performance test with Cat 8.3 (lol) drivers

Either way though, if 4870 is ~ 3870X2 speeds, then 4870X2 can certainly compete with the GTX260 if not 280

I'll believe it when I see and flyby's, cutscenes, walkthrus or in game benches are not used to test with. I want real, actual gaming benches, not crap.

 

[XMAN26]

Original graph from JC:

After some modifications...

Catalyst 8.4:
· A picture is worth a thousand words -> WiC avg FPS.

Catalyst 8.5 :
· Call of Juarez DX10: Performance increases up to 12% on systems containing an ATI Radeon HD 3000
· World in Conflict DX10: Performance increases up to 25% on systems containing an ATI Radeon HD 3800.
· Higher performance gains are noticed on systems contianing an ATI Radeon 3870 X2.

Which propably equates to 3-10% actual game performance boost.