corduroygt
Banned
Yeah, also the bright spots on the right shoulder armor and the arms with chains, along with that bright spot on the cliff, etc.
Alternative AA methods and their comparison with traditional MSAA*
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Lucid_Dreamer
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I would say it's at least double the AA quality up close. You can really tell on Kratos should armor.
OT: Also, I just noticed they rounded out his triceps. They look a lot more natural, now. It seems they did more character model improvements as well.
OT: Also, I just noticed they rounded out his triceps. They look a lot more natural, now. It seems they did more character model improvements as well.
corduroygt
Banned
Besides the obvious lack of dithering on Helios' hair, the high contrast edges between of Helios' eyes, mouth and the light are much better handled with the MLAA. It's a Saboteur level improvement...
The AA looks significantly better - almost missing on the second shot. Look inside Helios's mouth...
Lucid_Dreamer
Veteran
From a technical point of view, I basically agree with you. However, that close up of Kratos might not seem like that big of an AA difference to the average person (from the screenshot).
djskribbles
Legend
Yeah, good example.WOW the AA in the second shot is indeed very very impressive, see under kratos's arm (far better than 4xMSAA, prolly at least equivalent to around 16xMSAA), and as someone mentioned the sample alpha to coverage with the hair is also much better, cause its not there
TheWretched
Regular
Man... this game looks like dynamic CG... very impressive.
Now, do they filter the GUI too, like Saboteur did, or do they filter before the GUI is added?
Now, do they filter the GUI too, like Saboteur did, or do they filter before the GUI is added?
That is indeed a great question. Always love a UI improvement. Not a whole lot of end user differences (in this case), but I'd like to understand how it's done, and the reasons behind the chosen approach.
I think there's a big end user difference...depending on the scene. Jaggies have been messing up games for a long time...and finally we can have a console game that basically has none - I think the image overall will look MUCH cleaner (remember jaggies move up and down edges) to the end user...even if they don't know what's missing. Of course, GOWIII's art-style helps hide jaggies anyway, but I really think we'll all see a significant difference in this game.
The AA won't be as noticeable due to the low-key nature of the original MSAA version. The point of reference is the eyes. HDR has resulted in the euqivalebt of no AA on ultra-high contrast edges, a problem repeated in the demo of GOW3. MLAA renders these edges with AA about as good as we can get. Extrapolate that to the whole image, and the IQ improvement is pretty staggering IMO. Takes something bright and colourful like Banjo Threeie, or the outline rendering of Fat Princess. Elliminating the jaggies is a significant step. The first cel-shaded title to use MLAA will look damned near enough to 'real' to convince most viewers that it's a cartoon instead of a computer game.
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