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The link you link to has a broken link. :D
Dev kit screenshot has GPU with stamped "MSI" so we know it can only be MSI card. Back layout tells us its 6xxx series card, and more careful inspecting shows that it can only be R6870/R6950 because all other MSI cards in 6 series have different layout.

But, like Shifty said, card in devkit doesn't tell us what will be in final console anyway.
 
Dev kit screenshot has GPU with stamped "MSI" so we know it can only be MSI card. Back layout tells us its 6xxx series card, and more careful inspecting shows that it can only be R6870/R6950 because all other MSI cards in 6 series have different layout.

But, like Shifty said, card in devkit doesn't tell us what will be in final console anyway.

Do you have a cleaned up picture showing MSI on the devkit?
 
Back layout tells us its 6xxx series card, and more careful inspecting shows that it can only be R6870/R6950 because all other MSI cards in 6 series have different layout.

Not true, MSI released reference and none reference cards for every model of the 6000 series.
 
Not true, MSI released reference and none reference cards for every model of the 6000 series.
Can you find me any MSI 6 series GPU with same layout as one in the dev kit that is not 6870/6950? Because MSI 6770 for example has "MSI" grills on every card I saw, and only the ones I mentioned fit.
 
Can you find me any MSI 6 series GPU with same layout as one in the dev kit that is not 6870/6950? Because MSI 6770 for example has "MSI" grills on every card I saw, and only the ones I mentioned fit.

6870's only have one crossfire connector, 6950's on the other hand have 2.

There's loads of differences but I'm on tapa talk and cant get the link to work, I bet I could Identify what card it is quite easily.
 
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6870's only have one crossfire connector, 6950's on the other hand have 2.

There's loads of differences but I'm on tapa talk and cant get the link to work, I bet I could Identify what card it is quite easily.
Yes, but you can't see crossfire connectors on devkit shot, only that the GPU has dual DVI port, HDMI port and two display ports 1.2.

There is no difference in layout between MSI R6870 and MSI R6950, thats why we can't know exact card.

*I checked for layout of the cards from review galleries and videos, not from reference models for marketing
 
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Caption below this slide was " シーンのレンダリングパフォーマンス概要 ", which translates into "Overview of the scene rendering performance".

16678µs/16.6ms/60fps. Impressive. I always thought this demo was 30fps.

That means PS4+720 only need half the performance of GTX 680 to make such graphic @30 fps? It's really possible in next-gen.
 
According to the google translate they used GTX 680, i7-3770K 3.5GHz and 32 GB of RAM.

So depending on how efficient the code was on that GTX 680 there could be no chance of next generation consoles offering those graphics.

So, the answer would be a big ass NO? :cry:

That pisses me off, since we all saw that demo as something we will enjoy on next gen hardware (ahem, consoles), and with rumours putting the Xbox 360 and the PS4 in a RAM range of 4-8 GB, how will this be possible? Yes, I know that models are not optimized in this demo, but heck...
 
They are commiting more and more of their resources to this "tech demo".
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I think there is very good chance that this project will end up to be one of the mainline [numbered] Final Fantasy games.
 
They are commiting more and more of their resources to this "tech demo".
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I think there is very good chance that this project will end up to be one of the mainline [numbered] Final Fantasy games.[/QUOTE]

A guy at Square Enix mentioned that they would show something "different" of agnis philosophy at e3 next year, but Square ENIX still have to release LR:FFXIII and Versus so..its probably just another tech demo, but running on Durango/Orbis this time.
 
They should really consider porting versus to ps4. It's been how many years now that the game has been in development,6 or 7? That's pretty messed up. I'm guessing the crystal tools engine was not good enough plus the limit on current gen hardware put a limit on their vision. I think if they were to port it on Agnis, it would be a game that might leave a similar impact as FF7 has. I see the potential there.

Anyways, hope next gen hardware can handle this engine with no problems.
 
The longer they wait with Versus XIII install base of PS3 will grow [just reached 30mil in PAL], but eventually... PS4 will be out and start building its own install base.
 
I have dreamed of a day when game characters have realistic hair and cloth physics on top of a perfectly tessellated mesh with photorealistic skin shaders. That day has come. If there's one thing they could improve on is a decent sweat shader.
 
Just think of all the new positions and careers this will enable.
Lead mustache developer, Mustache technology research, ...
 
I have dreamed of a day when game characters have realistic hair and cloth physics on top of a perfectly tessellated mesh with photorealistic skin shaders. That day has come. If there's one thing they could improve on is a decent sweat shader.

That demo is hardly photrealistic. The hair shading is terrible too. Check out some good CGI on cgtalk and you'll realize how many more generations games are still behind.
 
FF games were never meant to be photorealistic. It's more of a CG anime. The tech demo is fantastic nontheless. I hope these next gen engines have really good animations and physics. That's what will make a huge impact next gen.
 
FF games were never meant to be photorealistic. It's more of a CG anime. The tech demo is fantastic nontheless. I hope these next gen engines have really good animations and physics. That's what will make a huge impact next gen.

So was MGS4 tech demo. And we all know how that turned out...
 
So was MGS4 tech demo. And we all know how that turned out...
Yep, that's why there's a lot of mayhem lately cause of the underwhelming specs for next gen consoles makes you wonder what kind of "compromization"
will occur.

Let's hope for a good enough baseline at least so if you get the pc version, the difference should be noticeable.

Ps. There's a rumour that Versus 13 is moved to next gen under a new title, but might be bs.
 
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