Yeah, I think by now it's well and truly covered that UC4's models in a decent lighting condition are simply better, the only one who's disagreeing is Jupiter and his attempt of cherry picking. I think it's time to move on instead of flooding the thread with more cherry picked shots. SC still has a long way to go despite its limitless hardware budget, but then again you don't have to reach UC4 or Horizon's model quality to be great, much less spending another couple of years on model perfection when you gotta ship your game at some point. SC really isn't doing itself a favor by delaying, by the time it releases we'll most likely have PS5, Xbox Next level models to compete with and that to me feels like walking into a blood bath.