Regarding cockpit, didn't they change the FOV to be closer to the steering wheel. I mean was it not 30fps when the FOV was wider or maybe it is just some cars?
[360] Forza Motorsport 3
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Regarding cockpit, didn't they change the FOV to be closer to the steering wheel. I mean was it not 30fps when the FOV was wider or maybe it is just some cars?
COPS N RAPPERS
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impressive shots, the PC version definitely shines over the two console versions, with better Rez, AA and better NPC detail.
i have the 360 version of GRID, and from what i can tell is that the 360 version's version has the same polygons for the car you're in, all the other cars change depending on how close they are to you. (though 360's LOD for NPCs is still pretty good)
well anyways, if it was a match between Forza3 and the console version of GRID, forza3 wins by having smoother looking cars, updated reflections, sharper reflections, richer environments, 60 fps, and with a way better looking cockpit mode.:smile:
I was actually going by comments from the Tekken 6 developers. You could be right of course.
I would think the GT3 is difficult to get it to spin from 1st gear (without a clutch dump), because it's a NA (max torque rather high up) car and especially because it's RR (rear-engine, rear-wheel-drive). If you include the factor of sticky tires, it would be pretty hard to get the wheels to spin.
COPS N RAPPERS
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anyone noticed NF shift having a better looking cockpit mode than F3?
i wonder now how many polys is Shift's cars are now?
http://www.videogameszone.de/m,brow... Grafik-Check mit dem Audi R8 und Porsche GT3
the rear view mirror at the top has got better shape, steering wheel looks smooth on both ends.
i wonder now how many polys is Shift's cars are now?
http://www.videogameszone.de/m,brow... Grafik-Check mit dem Audi R8 und Porsche GT3
the rear view mirror at the top has got better shape, steering wheel looks smooth on both ends.
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EDIT: Missread your post, cockpit interiors are more than 20000 polygons cars I dont know! XD
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I agree, the RR layout and race tires will give the GT3 excellent traction off the line.
Over on GAF one of their sim veterans gave this explanation for the peculiar 'arcadey' handling model present in the demo. He thinks the explanation lies with the elevation changes of the track.
Shouldn't this be the other way around? More traction on rear wheel tires due to more weight on the back when driving up hill. Less traction when going downhill because weight is on the front tires. So if you have RWD, you get little traction downhill, mucho traction uphill.
RWD is suprisingly good up hill in bad conditions because it gets more weight\traction on the rear wheels. Same reason why if you have a FWD car and want to go up a hill in bad conditions, it might be in your best interest to reverse up the hill. (Bad conditions = snow\whatever)
Tbh i reckon im gonna pass at FM3. The ingame graphics aren't very good compared to GT5, and after Turn10 went all out about how there is no bullshots blah blah blah (obviously we knew they where bullshots, but we didn't know that Photomode uses completely different quality models, and the real thing is not particularly awesome), i dont feel like giving them the satisfaction of getting away with it.
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I suggest you check your settings because if you have all the assist off while driving the Porsche and nail throttle off the line you *WILL* spin out, especially if you are not being careful to correct spin (i.e. don't touch the analog stick/wheel). Probably the biggest difference in the driving model is that the cars don't spin out as easily (although still quick possible). Instead under steer is a *big* issue as you will bleed off speed exceedingly fast. So while you won't be sliding out as easily (as FM2 really penalized you here) you will lose a lot of speed and in online racing you are going to get passed by easily. Likewise the Audi 4WD feels a lot better. If you hit a corner hot and try to turn you are pretty much screwed. But if you break coming in just right you can really take the corners very aggressively. FWD/RWD/4WD feel quite distinct in FM3 already.
And without even getting a chance to read the next two pages I can already see how these threads are going to go -- FUD.
Still waiting for "proof" there is no debris in FM2 ...
Goto an incline and point your car uphill. If you have a high HP rwd car, turn off traction control and mash the gas. You'll light the tires up. Now turn the car around and do the same. You'll see your car rocket away. Do that same thing is a corner and the effects will be same. Up hill, you'll have tons of front end grip as you can turn the car with ease. Down hill, the front end is much easier to wash out. Ofcourse there's a point of balance where you can overdo one or the other but it holds true. The traction circle is effected by slope load as much as cornering forces.
Story time. Many years ago, I went upto a cabin owned by my previous job. This was in a 3000GT SL (FWD car). I parked the car in the garage nose first. The driveway was sloped down. It snowed over night and the driveway got ice on it. Tried to leave to go skiing and I'd try to back out. Each time the front end would start fishtailing (yes, it's weird to see this!) as I'd try to reverse back up the ramp. Long story short, had to call the tow truck. He explained how this happens often with new comers to the snow and the regulars know to back the car into the garage as it's easier to drive it out like that.
Think about Newtonian physics. Unless the engine is mounted on rails and can go back & forth (front & back) as the car goes up or down, the weight of the engine stays over whatever end of the car it's originally installed on. Other than the fuel tank contents, there's not a whole lot of fluid dynamics going on in a car that will significantly alter it's handling (although the tires can be argued as being affected by fluid dynamics).
Acceleration is the big factor here effecting traction. In any car, on any incline/decline, if you accelerate, you lose front wheel traction. When decelerating, you gain front-wheel traction.
I enjoy multiplayer games ( i just dont bother to do team work because the average random player is very very very bad), and i do love racing games. I enjoyed the hell out of FM2.
Its just that with older age comes less spare time. Right now i just dont see any reason to get FM3. Im not to psyced about being able to put lots of bumber stickers on your car (dont get me wrong, the end result can be great, but i like clean original cars), and i dont feel that FM offers me anything else except for that, that i dont get in GT5. And knowing that GT5 will take up a lot of my time, id rather not. The poor graphics and PR just makes it easier to decide
As an aside, neither FM3 demo nor GT5
I find I'm the same, although probably more because they are trying to make 5 year old hardware look good at 60fps. Both the Forza3 demo and GT5p look kinda sterile to me, you can just see all the shortcuts they are taking to hit 60fps which is unfortunate. The consoles are just darned old now, I kinda wish they would just do racing games at 30fps to give them a chance to keep up with the visuals. I mean they both look ok, but there is no hope of a 60fps game on these consoles blowing me away any more.
Well, I think that GT has been investigating if they can go 30fps and compensate the lack of framerate with motion blur, dof and such, but aren't happy with it just yet. Forza 3 came from the exact opposite direction, with Forza 1 being 30fps and Turn10 realising that you really need 60fps for a racing game. For sweeping left / right camera movement such as you get when you take a sharp turn though, I feel you really need 60fps. In theory, if head-tracking really works well, then in the cockpit view, if you actually keep looking into the corners, 30fps may actually cut it - I know this is like cursing in Church (old Dutch saying) for some serious race fans, but I'm just keeping an open mind.
Right now though, for a circuit based racing game, I think PD is spending its budget wisely on lighting and framerate. Forza 3 is fine too - I've really enjoyed driving the demo. Before anything else, it's still the actual driving that's got to wow me first. Forza 3 reminds me a lot of some of the old PC sims I've played, and although I have a few qualms with some of the stuff, the general gist of it is that it's fun to drive. If I like hotlapping in a game for an hour, then for me it's a good game.
I enjoy multiplayer games ( i just dont bother to do team work because the average random player is very very very bad), and i do love racing games. I enjoyed the hell out of FM2.
Its just that with older age comes less spare time. Right now i just dont see any reason to get FM3. Im not to psyced about being able to put lots of bumber stickers on your car (dont get me wrong, the end result can be great, but i like clean original cars), and i dont feel that FM offers me anything else except for that, that i dont get in GT5. And knowing that GT5 will take up a lot of my time, id rather not. The poor graphics and PR just makes it easier to decide
You don't think you would get enough playtime in between when F3 releases and when GT5 releases to justify buying it?
Not really. Fifa10,MW2 and uncharted are all coming out aswell. Tbh i wont have any time to play them until christmas. And when im finished with that, GT5 is here.
Ive stopped playing PC games aside from football manager on occasion, so console graphics are still looking good