3 m PSP's already sold worldwide according to sony

[Teasy]

No I don't suppose it should have been.

 

[see colon]

I think writing the PSP off just yet and making such comments might just bite you back - just considering Nintendo already lost one time and I don't see the Nintendo DS as the perfect handheld to protect them from a similar faith - despite its lead which is unsurprising anyway.

while i can completely agree with this statement, it's important to note that the nintendo's and sony's machines launched at much different times in the 32/64 bit era. sony had an 18 month(?) lead on the n64 and fought a pretty successfull war against sega durring that time, capturing a decent portion of the market, mindshare, and 3rd party support. part of the reason nintendo "lost" that generation was because of the momentum sony had.

with the DS/PSP both sytems are launching close enough where people at least know the other system is coming out, have a decent idea on price and performance, and a pretty decent idea on how the games compare when they are buying one. even in europe (where the psp isn't out yet) people can go online or see screenshots and previews in magazines.

 

[PC-Engine]

You also predicted that next gen consoles would run at 1Ghz, see where that got you?

That predction was based on the assumption they would choose to follow a low clock speed route instead of a high clock speed route to get high performance ie the route GPUs are going.

Also see colon made a good point.

 

[mech]

You also predicted that next gen consoles would run at 1Ghz, see where that got you?

That predction was based on the assumption they would choose to follow a low clock speed route instead of a high clock speed route to get high performance ie the route GPUs are going.

Also see colon made a good point.

Weaksauce... they are going relatively low speed with their Ghz! After all, we're looking at 3 and 9 core CPUs here.. how can you have even lower Ghz with similar performance?

Edit: Anyway, we're going way off topic here, we'll have to dig out that old thread when the PS3 gets officially announced and hash it out there

 

[jvd]

The problem is in the hand held world nintendo has faced many a time a more power full handheld and has every single time smashed it into the ground .

Many sony fans from the console forum swore that the psp would crush the ds and the ds would provide no competition . Meanwhile its turning out the other way around .

Sony imho forgot what was important about a hand held . Cost and battery life . Now its bitting them in the ass .

It might actually get worse as i hear madcatz is going to release a 26 hour battery for the ds (18 hour wifi ) for 50$ during or after e3 .

That is a huge diffrence from the 5 -7 hour battery life of sonys 50$ battery .


This is what sega learned with the nomad . Its graphics were stunning , i dare say better than the gba sp and it played genesis games with out a need to rebuy them . But it lasted 4 hours on 6 double a batterys and that is what killed it

 

[PC-Engine]

Weaksauce... they are going relatively low speed with their Ghz! After all, we're looking at 3 and 9 core CPUs here.. how can you have even lower Ghz with similar performance?

Why is it weak sauce? Why don't we have 3GHz GPUs? I was applying the same low clock, high performance design philosophy of GPUs to CPUs because consoles are small, I predicted low clock, low power, low heat which made sense. I guess I didn't factoring in the high GHz number which is good for marketing though.

In microprocessor design there's always a compromise/tradeoff between clockspeed and performance. If you have high clockspeed then per clock cycle you wouldn't be able to do much. If you design your IC around high instructions per clock then you won't be able to get high clock speeds. Where you draw the line depends on what you're trying to achieve. And yes we're going off topic so I won't continue this discussion.

This is what sega learned with the nomad . Its graphics were stunning , i dare say better than the gba sp and it played genesis games with out a need to rebuy them . But it lasted 4 hours on 6 double a batterys and that is what killed it

Same with the TurboExpress.

 

[mech]

I find my PSP battery lasts for ages. I'm never more than 5 hours between charges. You can buy powerpack for $20 to double your capacity if you really want.

The old handhelds required either costly alkalines, or expensive rechargeable batteries that didn't last very long. We're talking like a 1 hour charge with the rechargeables, with a 12-15 hour recharge time. There's just a wee bit of a difference with the PSP - the rechargeable battery is built in, it's easy to charge, you can charge and play at the same time, it lasts for a LOT longer than the old handhelds, and you can replace your battery very easily (unlike with Nintendo handhelds).

So it's a weak comparison really.

PCE: I told you, we'll hash it out when PS3 is announced in a couple of weeks

 

[London Geezer]

This is what sega learned with the nomad . Its graphics were stunning , i dare say better than the gba sp and it played genesis games with out a need to rebuy them . But it lasted 4 hours on 6 double a batterys and that is what killed it

How is that related to PSP? More power requires more electricity. Or are we going to keep GBA kind of graphics for the sake of "battery life"? Which, as it stands, is more than decent on PSP, considering what it does. New batteries will come out to make it better.

 

[PC-Engine]

Nintendo doesn't want to lose butloads of money by rushing a powerful handheld to market that requires a 4800mAh battery. That's why they are waiting to launch Evolutiion when battery technolgy gets cheaper for the same capacity. Why do you think SONY had to clock lock PSP at 222MHz???

 

[London Geezer]

Nintendo doesn't want to lose butloads of money by rushing a powerful handheld to market that requires a 4800mAh battery. That's why they are waiting to launch Evolutiion when battery technolgy gets cheaper for the same capacity. Why do you think SONY had to clock lock PSP at 222MHz???

Whatever the reason, it's pretty much like saying "MS wanted to wait till they got the Xbox powerful enough at a good price". Or saying "Sony will wait till PS3 is powerful enough and not prohibitely expensive to manufacture".
In the end, the platforms need to be released, Sony think that they're ready to support PSP as it is now, if then Nintendo comes out with something more powerful (which eventually will happen), then who cares? I don't see anyone complaining about PSP battery life apart from people who don't own one. Or JVD, but trying to please that man is like finding a G spot.

 

[Kolgar]

The problem is in the hand held world nintendo has faced many a time a more power full handheld and has every single time smashed it into the ground .

Many sony fans from the console forum swore that the psp would crush the ds and the ds would provide no competition . Meanwhile its turning out the other way around .

Oh. My. God.

jvd! Um, hello? I think it's a little early to tell PSP's impact on the portable market just yet. And I think it's a little too early to declare DS a winner... (And by "winner," I don't just mean a sales leader... I mean, a viable platform with the legs to last several years with a steady supply of great games.) Let's wait and see how all this "third tier" stuff gets sorted out, and what that means to DS in the future.

My gosh, you're so eager to see Sony fail. I can understand you not wanting Nintendo to get their asses handed to them on a silver platter like Sony did to them in the console biz, but jeez, come on. Just let things play out. Don't jump to conclusions. Most of all - if you're going to be a rabid f*nboy, at least yoke it back a little so it doesn't taint the logic of your posts.

 

[Phil]

while i can completely agree with this statement, it's important to note that the nintendo's and sony's machines launched at much different times in the 32/64 bit era. sony had an 18 month(?) lead on the n64 and fought a pretty successfull war against sega durring that time, capturing a decent portion of the market, mindshare, and 3rd party support. part of the reason nintendo "lost" that generation was because of the momentum sony had.

Hmm, I was under the assumption that the PS had quite a struggle and only started to sell after the N64 had launched (period of Mai 1996 - Nov 1996). After that, it just started to sell like mad, as the numbers indicate (from 5 million shipped in Mai 1996 to 13 million in March 1997).

When did the N64 launch anyway - which month of 1996 and in which regions?

Anyway, I also thought the N64 and the PS were neck at neck for a very long time, but maybe I'm mixing this up with the NA situation where the N64 did stay quite competitive until before PSone was introduced?


Kolgar PM!

 

[see colon]

New batteries will come out to make it [the PSP] better

actualy, new batteries will come out to make it the same. once sony removes the mhz cap from the developers the machine is going to chew threw batteries even faster.

to be honest, right now i think the psp battery lasts long enough. i haven't really done marathon tests like i have with some of my other consoles, but charging it isn't getting in the way as much as i expected it to. i think the 222mhz cap and (from what i hear) stronger batteries for the NA units really helps sony reach the sweet spot for right now. the battery life i get out of my DS, though, is rediculous. i play it daily and charge it once a week, maybe.

Hmm, I was under the assumption that the PS had quite a struggle and only started to sell after the N64 had launched

i think it was the battle with sega that cemented sony's position as the market leader that generation. but, i have no numbers or links to back that up.

 

[archie4oz]

That is fine if you want to believe that . Sony however has shown in the past that they jump on the newest control screens . Sega came out with an anlog stick , nintendo did , then sony put out the dual shock . Nintendo and sega used rumble packs then sony put out the dual shock .

Control screens?

Sega wasn't the first out with an analog stick. Analog sticks have been around for ages before any of the three started making consoles. As for "rumble packs", Sony's DAP was released before Nintendo or Segas rumble packs (and it was of course built in, not an add-on)

In microprocessor design there's always a compromise/tradeoff between clockspeed and performance. If you have high clockspeed then per clock cycle you wouldn't be able to do much. If you design your IC around high instructions per clock then you won't be able to get high clock speeds.

Actually you're off a bit there... Thermal conditions, current leakage and signal propogation tend to play a bigger role than this nebulous "high instructions per clock".

 

[PC-Engine]

As for "rumble packs", Sony's DAP was released before Nintendo or Segas rumble packs (and it was of course built in, not an add-on)

Yeah and now they're being sued.

Actually you're off a bit there... Thermal conditions, current leakage and signal propogation tend to play a bigger role than this nebulous "high instructions per clock".

Current leakage was never much of an issue during the 180nm days. All other factors being equal, high clockspeed designs usually have a tradeoff of being able to do less per cycle than a low clockspeed design.That's why you don't see 3GHz GPUs. If ATI designed a 3GHz GPU tommorrow it wouldn't be able to do the same amount of work per cycle as a 500MHz GPU. It would do less per cycle, again all other factors like transistor counts, fab process, etc. being equal.

 

[jarrod]

just taking this month as reference is realy a bad example.

someone at gaming-age has a more detailed list .. it's about 200+- for ds an,d 200+- psp games coming out this year...

That'd be me, current (pre-E3) announced game counts are 249 for DS and 212 for PSP.

 

[see colon]

That'd be me, current (pre-E3) announced game counts are 249 for DS and 212 for PSP.

that's total games in development, correct? as in, they aren't all coming out in 2005.

 

[jarrod]

That'd be me, current (pre-E3) announced game counts are 249 for DS and 212 for PSP.

that's total games in development, correct? as in, they aren't all coming out in 2005.

Correct. It also counts already released titles. Here's the list, with confirmed US releases bolded.....


Nintendo DS Games
-A Boy and His Blob: Jelly's Cosmic Adventure (Majesco)
-Advance Wars 3: Battle for Omega Land (Nintendo)
-Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings (Majesco)
-Animal Crossing to Go! (Nintendo)
-Animaniacs: Lights, Camera, Action (Ignition Entertainment)
-Animetic RPG (Arika)
-Another Code (Nintendo)
-Armored Core series (From Software)
-Asphalt Urban GT (UbiSoft)
-ATV Quad Frenzy (Majesco)
-Barnyard (THQ)
-Baten Kaitos DS (Namco)
-Batman Begins (Electronic Arts)
-Big Mutha Truckers DS (THQ)
-Blades of Thunder 2 (SummitSoft)
-Black & White Creatures (Majesco)
-Bleach (Sega)
-Boktai (Konami)
-Bokujou Monogatari: Korobokkle Station (Marvelous Interactive)
-Bomberman DS (UbiSoft)
-Bouken-Ou Beet (Bandai)
-Bubble Bobble Revolution (Majesco)
-Bukyou (Starfish)
-Bust-A-Move DS (Majesco)
-Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 06: Kill Or Be Killed (Activision)
-Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow (Konami)
-Choro Q DS (Atlus)
-Cocoto Card Racer (BigBen Interactive)
-Crash Tag Team Racing (VU Games)
-Deep Labyrinth (Interactive Brains)
-Def Jam Vendetta (Electronic Arts)
-Devlish: Ball Bounder (Starfish)
-Disney's Kim Possible 4: Communicator (Disney Interactive)
-Disney's Lizzie McGuire (Disney Interactive)
-Disney's That's So Raven (Disney Interactive)
-Dinsey/Pixar's Cars (THQ)
-Disney/Pixar's Finding Nemo (THQ)
-Disney/Pixar's The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer (THQ)
-Dobutsu Shima no Chibi Gurumi 3 (Rocket Company)
-Dragon Ball Z: Super Sonic Warriors 2 (Atari)
-Dragon Booster (Konami)
-Dragon Quest Monsters series (Square Enix)
-Dragon Quest Slime Morimori 2 (Square Enix)
-Dress (Bandai)
-Dust & Shadows (Neko Entertainment)
-Dynasty Warriors (Koei)
-Egg Monster Heroes (Square Enix)
-Europa Universalis II (Pocket PC Studios)
-Eye Shield 21 (Nintendo)
-Fairly Odd Parents (THQ)
-Feel the Magic: XY-XX (Sega)
-Final Fantasy III (Square Enix)
-Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles series (Square Enix)
-Ford Racing 3 (2K Games)
-Franklin (Neko Entertainment)
-Frogger: Helmet Havoc (Konami)
-Fushugino Dungeon Pokémon World: Pikachu's Adventure (ChunSoft)
-Ganbare Goemon! Toukai Douchuu Ooedo Tenguri-kaeshi no Maki (Konami)
-Garfield: Battle for Home (Game Factory)
-Goldeneye: Rogue Agent (Electronic Arts)
-Golden Nugget Casino DS (Majesco)
-GT-DS Racing (MTO)
-Guilty Gear Dust Strikers (Majesco)
-Guruguru Nagetto (Success)
-Guruguru Omiseyasan Gokko (Bandai)
-Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Dual Symphony (Bandai)
-Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (Electronic Arts)
-Intelligent License (Now Production)
-Jam with the Band (Nintendo)
-James Bond 007: From Russia with Love (Electronic Arts)
-JAWS Unleashed (Majesco)
-Jeff Corwin Experience (Conspiracy Entertainment)
-Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyuu series (Konami)
-Jinsei Game DS (Atlus)
-Jissen Pachislot Hisshopou! Fist of the North Star DS (Sega)
-Johnny Rocketfingers (Conspiracy Entertainment)
-Jump Super Stars (Nintendo)
-Kaido Racing Battle (Genki)
-Katamari Damacy DS (Namco)
-Kawaii Koinu DS (MTO)
-Kawa no Nushi Tsuri DS (Marvelous Interactive)
-Kenshuui Tendou Dokuta (Spike)
-Kerokero King (Bandai)
-Keroro Gunsou (Bandai)
-Kirby: Canvas Curse (Nintendo)
-Living High↑Killing Low↓ (Genki)
-Londonian Gothics: Mekyuu no Lolita (Mega Cyber)
-Lost in Blue (Konami)
-Lucky Star (Kadowkawa Shoten)
-Lunar Genesis (UbiSoft)
-Madagascar (Activision)
-Madden NFL 2005 (Electronic Arts)
-Madden NFL 06 (Electronic Arts)
-Magical Vacation II (Nintendo)
-Mahjong Taikai (Koei)
-Mahou Touch! (Bandai)
-Mario & Luigi 2 (Nintendo)
-Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
-Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects (Electronic Arts)
-Meikyuu (Aruze)
-Megaman Battle Network 5 DS: Twin Leaders (Capcom)
-Meteos (Nintendo)
-Metroid Dread (Nintendo)
-Metroid Prime: Hunters (Nintendo)
-Metroid Prime: Pinball (Nintendo)
-Midway Arcade Compilation (Midway)
-Mikke! (Aki)
-Mini R/C Racing (Game Factory)
-Minna no Mahjong DS: Kenkou Mahjong (MTO)
-Mobile Suit Gundam SEED (Bandai)
-Momotarou Densetsu World (Hudson)
-Monolpoly DS (DSI Games)
-Monster Summoner (Ertain)
-Monster Rancher Jamboree (Tecmo)
-Moonlight Fables (Majesco)
-Mr Driller: Drill Spirits (Namco)
-Nanostray (Majesco)
-Naruto RPG 2 (TOMY)
-Naruto: Saikyo Ninja Daikesshu 3 (TOMY)
-NBA Live 06 (Electronic Arts)
-Need for Speed Most Wanted (Electronic Arts)
-Need for Speed Underground 2 (Electronic Arts)
-Nicktoons (THQ)
-Nintendo Tetris (Nintendo)
-Ochaken DS (MTO)
-Ouendan (Nintendo)
-One Piece Grand Battle! (Bandai)
-Pac n' Roll (Namco)
-Pac-Pix (Namco)
-Peter Jackson's King Kong (UbiSoft)
-Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (Capcom)
-Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (Disney Interactive)
-Pokémon Dash (Nintendo)
-Pokémon Diamond Version (Nintendo)
-Pokémon Pearl Version (Nintendo)
-Polarium (Nintendo)
-Power Pro Pocket Koushien (Konami)
-Prince of Persia: Warrior Within (UbiSoft)
-Professional Wrestling (Yukes)
-Puyo Pop Fever (Atlus)
-Rainbow Islands Revolution (Rising Star Games)
-Rally DS (Spike)
-Rayman DS (UbiSoft)
-Rakugaki Oukoku series (Taito)
-Real Time Conflict: Shogun Empires (Namco)
-Rekishi Simulation (Koei)
-Retro Atari Classics (Atari)
-Ridge Racer DS (Namco)
-Robots (VU Games)
-SBK: Snowboard Kids DS (Atlus)
-Scooby-Doo! Unmasked (THQ)
-SD Gundam G Generation DS (Bandai)
-Sea World Adventure Parks: Season Pass (Activision)
-Secret of Mana series (Square Enix)
-Sentouin Yamada Hajime 2 (Kids Station)
-Shaman King (Konami)
-Shin Megami Tensei DS (Atlus)
-Shrek Super Slam (Activision)
-Simple DS series: The Billiards (D3 Publisher)
-Simple DS series: The Mah-jong (D3 Publisher)
-Simple DS series: The Mushitori Oukoku (D3 Publisher)
-Snood 2: Lost in Snoodville (DSI Games)
-Sonic Rub (Sega)
-Space Invaders Revolution (Mastiff)
-Spectral Force (Idea Factory)
-Spider-Man 2 (Activision)
-SpongeBob SquarePants: The Yellow Avenger (THQ)
-Sprung (UbiSoft)
-Spyro the Dragon: Shadow Legacy (VU Games)
-SRS: Street Racing Syndicate (Namco)
-SSX: On Tour (Electronic Arts)
-Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (UbiSoft)
-Super Black Bass: Dynamic Shot (Starfish)
-Super Mario 64 DS (Nintendo)
-Super Mario Bros DS (Nintendo)
-Super Princess Peach (Nintendo)
-Super Robot Taisen DS (Banpresto)
-Tak: The Great Juju Challenge (THQ)
-Tantei Adventure (Kids Station)
-Tengai Maykou II: Manjimaru (Hudson)
-Tennis no Oji-Sama 2005: Crystal Drive (Konami)
-Tetris DS (THQ)
-Texas Hold 'Em Poker DS (Majesco)
-The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe (Disney Interactive)
-The Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (VU Games)
-The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures DS (Nintendo)
-The Sims 2: Nightlife (Electronic Arts)
-The Urbz: Sims in the City (Electronic Arts)
-Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2005 (Electronic Arts)
-Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory (UbiSoft)
-Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)
-Touch Golf (Nintendo)
-Toy Heads World (Interactive Brains)
-Trauma Center: Under the Knife (Atlus)
-Ubukawa Detective Case Files: The Masquerade Lullaby (Genki)
-Ultimate Brain Games DS (TeleGames)
-Ultimate Card Games DS (TeleGames)
-Ultimate Spider-Man (Activision)
-Urusei Yatsura (Marvelous Interactive)
-Yakuman DS (Nintendo)
-Yoshi Touch & Go (Nintendo)
-Yu-Gi-Oh! Nightmare Troubador (Konami)
-Vandal Hearts (Konami)
-Viewtiful Joe Scratch! (Capcom)
-Wac a Mole! (Activision)
-Wario Ware TOUCHED! (Nintendo)
-WiNX (Konami)
-World Poker Championship: Deluxe Edition (Crave Entertainment)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven series (Konami)
-Worms Forts: Under Seige (2K Games)
-Xenosaga DS (Namco)
-ZOIDS (TOMY)
-Zoo Keeper (Ignition Entertainment)
-Zoo Tycoon (THQ)
-Zunou Ni Asekaku Game Series: Volume 1: Cool 104 Joker & Setline (Aruze)
-Zunou Ni Asekaku Game Series: Volume 2 (Aruze)
-Zunou Ni Asekaku Game Series: Volume 3 (Aruze)

Nintendo DS Non-Games
-DS Rakuhiki Jiten (Nintendo)
-Electro Plankton (Nintendo)
-Nintendogs: Chihuahua and Friends (Nintendo)
-Nintendogs: Dachshund and Friends (Nintendo)
-Nintendogs: Shiba and Friends (Nintendo)
-Nou o Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo)
-Organizer Plus (SummitSoft)
-Picto-Chat (Nintendo)
-Ping Pals (THQ)
-Touch DIC (Daiwon C&A Holdings)
-Yawaraka Atama Juku (Nintendo)

Nintendo DS TBA Games
-action (Alfa Unit)
-action (D3)
-action (Epoch)
-action (Now Production)
-action (Tasuke)
-action RPG (Aruze)
-action RPG (Hudson)
-card battle (Kids Station)
-board game (Work Jams)
-family (Orbital Media)
-multiplayer sports (Sega)
-platform (Orbital Media)
-racing (Orbital Media)
-RPG (GameArts)
-RPG (Marvelous Interactive)
-RPG (TOMY)
-simulation (Sunrise)
-simulation (Tasuke)
-simulation RPG (Mistwalker)
-strategy RPG (Orbital Media)
-Team Ninja project (Tecmo)



PSP Games
-50 Cent: Bulletproof (VU Games)
-Advent Shadow (Majesco)
-AI Series Mahjong (Marvelous Interactive)
-AI Series Igo (Marvelous Interactive)
-AI Series Shougo (Marvelous Interactive)
-Angel Collection (MTO)
-Ape Escape: On the Loose (SCEI)
-Archer MacLean's Mercury (Ignition Entertainment)
-Armored Core: Formula Front (Agetec)
-ATV Offroad Fury: Blazin' Trails (SCEI)
-Axel Impact International (SCEI)
-Batman Begins (Electronic Arts)
-Battlefield II: Modern Combat (Electronic Arts)
-Beatbox Studio (Coong Entertainment)
-Black & White Creatures (Majesco)
-Bleach: Heat the Soul (SCEI)
-Bleach 2 (SCEI)
-Bloodrayne 2 (Majesco)
-Bokujou Monogatari series (Marvelous Interactive)
-Bomberman: Panic Bomber (Hudson)
-Bounty Hounds (Namco)
-Burnout Legends (Electronic Arts)
-Card Shark 3 (Phoenix Games)
-Cloud of Verruca (Success)
-Coded Arms (Konami)
-Colin McRae Rally 2005 (Codemasters)
-Combat Over Europe (GMX Media)
-Crash Tag Team Racing (VU Games)
-Crazy Racing: Kart Rider (Nexon)
-Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (Square Enix)
-DarkStalkers Chronicle: The Chaos Tower (Capcom)
-Daxter (SCEI)
-Dead to Rights Reckoning (Namco)
-Death Jr (Konami)
-Def Jam Vendetta (Electronic Arts)
-Derby Time (SCEI)
-Detective Shinto Shrine (Work Jams)
-Devil May Cry series (Capcom)
-Dokodemo Issyo (SCEI)
-Dokodemo Kaishou Pachislot Sengen (Tecmo)
-Dragon Ball Z (Bandai)
-DRIV3R (Atari)
-Dynasty Warriors (Koei)
-Eiyuu Densetsu Gagharv Trilogy: Akai Shizuku (Bandai)
-Eiyuu Densetsu Gagharv Trilogy: Shiroki Majo (Bandai)
-Evil Village (Now Production)
-EX Jinsei Game (Atlus)
-FIFA Soccer 2005 (Electronic Arts)
-Fired Up (SCEI)
-Football Manager 2006 (Sega)
-Formula One Grand Prix (SCEI)
-FRANTIX (Sony Online Entertainment)
-Free Runing (Eidos)
-Frogger: Helmet Havoc (Konami)
-Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (Bandai)
-GloRace: Phantastic Carnival (SCEI)
-Grand Theft Auto: Sin City (Rockstar Games)
-Gran Turismo 4 mobile (SCEI)
-Gretzky NHL 2005 (SCEI)
-GripShift (Sony Online Entertainment)
-Guilty Gear Judgment (Majesco)
-Gun (Activision)
-Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (Electronic Arts)
-Harukanaru Toki no Naka De: Iroe Tebako (Koei)
-Higanjima (Now Production)
-Hoshigari Empusa (Takyuo)
-Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee (SCEI)
-Infected (Majesco)
-Intelligent License (Now Production)
-James Bond 007: From Russia with Love (Electronic Arts)
-Jan-Mate (Success)
-Jeff Corwin Experience (Conspiracy Entertainment)
-Jikkyo Powerful Pro Yakyuu series (Konami)
-Jissen Pachislot Hisshopou! Fist of the North Star Portable (Sega)
-Karakuri (Tecmo)
-Karaoke (SCEI)
-Kawa no Nushi Tsuri series (Marvelous Interactive)
-Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor (Bandai)
-Kidou Senshi Gundam (Bandai)
-King's Field series (From Software)
-Kino no Tabi: The Beautiful World (MediaWorks)
-KOF Milennium Impact (SNK Playmore)
-Kollon (CyberFront)
-Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan Daijiten (Namco)
-Lumines (UbiSoft)
-Madden NFL 06 (Electronic Arts)
-Mahjong Kakutou (Konami)
-Mahjong Taikai (Koei)
-Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects (Electronic Arts)
-MediEvil Resurrection (SCEI)
-Metal Gear AC!D (Konami)
-Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition (Rockstar Games)
-Midway Arcade Treasures (Midway)
-MLB 2005 (SCEI)
-Mobile Train Simulator + Densha de Go! Tokyo Kyuukou Hen (Ongakukan)
-Mortal Kombat: Deception (Midway)
-Mushi (Global A)
-MX Unleashed (THQ)
-MVP Baseball 2005 (Electronic Arts)
-Namco Museum Battle Collection (Namco)
-Naruto (Bandai)
-NBA 2005 (SCEI)
-NBA Ballers (Midway)
-NBA Live 06 (Electronic Arts)
-NBA Street Showdown (Electronic Arts)
-Need for Speed Most Wanted (Electronic Arts)
-Need for Speed Underground Rivals (Electronic Arts)
-Neopets: Petpet Adventures: The Wand of Wishing (SCEI)
-NFL Street 2 Unleashed (Electronic Arts)
-One Piece (Bandai)
-Pac-Man World 3 (Namco)
-Paintball Tournamnet: Hastings 2006 (Activision)
-Payout Poker and Casino (Namco)
-Persona (Atlus)
-Peter Jackson's King Kong (UbiSoft)
-Pilot Nina Rou series (Marvelous Interactive)
-Piposaru Academia: Dossari! Sarugee Daizenshuu (SCEI)
-Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (Disney Interactive)
-Plus Plum 2 Again (Takyuo)
-PoPoLoCrois (Agetec)
-Prince of Persia: Warrior Within (UbiSoft)
-Princess Crown (Atlus)
-Professional Wrestling (Yukes)
-Project Econia (Lionlogics)
-Pursuit Force (SCEI)
-Puyo Puyo Fever (Sega)
-Puzzle Bobble Pocket (Taito)
-Red Line (SCEI)
-Rengoku: Tower of Purgatory (Konami)
-Ridge Racer (Namco)
-RNR: We Run Through The Beats (Seed9)
-RS Revolution (Spike)
-San Goku Shi V (Koei)
-School Rumble: Nesan Jiken Desu (Bandai)
-Sengoku Cannon: Sengoku Ace Episode III (XNauts)
-Shingata (Sunrise)
-Shinobido Imashime (Spike)
-Shin Tenmakai: Generation of Chaos IV Another Side (Idea Factory)
-Shutoko Battle: Zone of Control (Genki)
-Slotter Up Core 5 Lupin Daisuki! Shuyaku ha Zenigata (Dorart)
-Smartbomb (Eidos)
-SOCOM: Fireteam Bravo (SCEI)
-Sonic Rush (Sega)
-Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor (Bandai)
-Space Invaders Pocket (Taito)
-Sparrow Merit (Success)
-Spider-Man 2 (Activision)
-SpongeBob SquarePants: The Yellow Avenger (THQ)
-SSX: On Tour (Electronic Arts)
-Stacked with Daniel Negreanu (Myelin Media)
-Star Soldier (Hudson)
-Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (UbiSoft)
-Super Robot Taisen Portable (Banpresto)
-Super Star Studio (Coong)
-Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow (SCEI)
-Taiko no Tatsujin (Namco)
-Tales of Eternia (Namco)
-Tantei Jinguuji Saburo (Work Jams)
-Technic Cute (Arika)
-Tecmo My Generation (Tecmo)
-Tenchi no Mon (SCEI)
-Tenchu Shinobi Taizen (From Software)
-Tengai Makyou: The 4th Revelation: The Apocalypse (Hudson)
-Test Drive Unlimited (Atari)
-The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe (Disney Interactive)
-The Con (SCEI)
-The Fantastic Four (Activision)
-The Godfather (Electronic Arts)
-The Sims 2: Nightlife (Electronic Arts)
-Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2005 (Electronic Arts)
-TGM-K (Arika)
-TOCA Race Driver 2: The Ultimate Racing Simulator (Codemasters)
-Tomb Raider Legend (Eidos)
-Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 4 (UbiSoft)
-Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision)
-Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix (Activision)
-Toudai Shougi Portable (Manichi)
-Touge Max (Atlus)
-True Crime 2 (Activision)
-Twelve: Sengoku Fuushinden (Konami)
-Twisted Metal: Head On (SCEI)
-Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade (Sony Online Entertainment)
-Untold Legends II (Sony Online Entertainment)
-Vegas Casino 2 (Phoenix Games)
-Viewtiful Joe VFX Battle (Capcom)
-Virtua Tennis: World Tour (Sega)
-Visual Novel series (Aqua Plus)
-Vulcanus (Zepetto)
-WipEout Pure (SCEI)
-World Championship Snooker 2005 (Sega)
-World Poker Tour (2K Games)
-World Soccer Winning Eleven series (Konami)
-World Tour Soccer 2005 (SCEI)
-WRC (SCEI)
-X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse (Activision)
-Yamasi Digi Portable (Yamasa)
-Yarudora Portable Series: Double Cast (SCEI)
-Yarudora Portable Series: Kisetsu o Dakishimete (SCEI)
-Yarudora Portable Series: Sampaguita (SCEI)
-Yarudora Portable Series: Yukiwari no Hana (SCEI)
-Ys: The Ark of Napishtim (Konami)
-Zoo Keeper (Ignition Entertainment)

PSP Non-Games
-Adventure Player (From Software)
-Talkman (SCEI)

PSP TBA Games
-action (TOMY)
-action/adventure (Atari)
-communication/simulation (Sega)
-digital pet (Sega)
-education (Imagineer)
-graphic adventure (Sega)
-MMORPG (SCEI)
-puzzle (D3 Publisher)
-puzzle (MTO)


Game Counts!!

Nintendo DS
Games: 217
Non-Games: 11
TBA Games: 21

1st Party: 35
3rd Party: 214

Total: 249


PlayStation Portable
Games: 197
Non-Games: 2
TBA Games: 13

1st Party:39
3rd Party: 173

Total:212

 

[see colon]

thanks. i thought that claim of 200 games by the end of the year for each system was taken out of context. not that i wouldn't enjoy 30 games per month for each system.

 

[archie4oz]

Yeah and now they're being sued.

So? WTF does that have to do with regards to release timelines? Go start a lawsuit thread if you want...

Current leakage was never much of an issue during the 180nm days.

So? It's a problem now. Besides it's cropped up in 130nm and more significantly on 90nm processes.

All other factors being equal, high clockspeed designs usually have a tradeoff of being able to do less per cycle than a low clockspeed design.

Except that other factors are almost never equal so there's no point in bringing it up.

That's why you don't see 3GHz GPUs. If ATI designed a 3GHz GPU tomorrow it wouldn't be able to do the same amount of work per cycle as a 500MHz GPU. It would do less per cycle, again all other factors like transistor counts, fab process, etc. being equal.

If *all* other factors being equal and you can scale up to 3GHz then they would be doing the same amount of work per clock because there would be no point to sticking@500MHz...