3 m PSP's already sold worldwide according to sony
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I got that already from your opinion.
PC-Engine said:
Frankly I think the use of the PSP as a mp3 player will be extremely limited.
UMD? I'm not so sure yet. Much of this depends on how well Sony is at getting this pushed out to consumers and so far I'm unimpressed.
I think Sony should start packaging UMD versions of their movies for free with the DVD version. Or perhaps a different package where the UMDs are packed in for a nominal fee. Something, anything to get consumers to adopt it.
PC-Engine said:Snyder said:PC-Engine said:hey69 said:
But it allows games to be played in a new way and most people who have played the games in this new way say it's much more interesting than just better graphics.
You know most people who have played DS games? Cool.
Most people who I've talked to at gaming shops who have played both DS and PSP games liked DS's control better compared to PSP standard interface. They said PSP has nice graphics but it's just the same old stuff they've been playing on Xbox, PS2, etc. Now take that small random sample and scale it to the rest of the gaming population and you could get a rough estimate.
Well, and here we have the crux of the problem. Who are you to say that "most people who I've talked to at gaming shops who have played both DS and PSP games" are a demographically/statistically representative group that allows extrapolating to the gaming population?
That's anecdotal evidence and, as it is, statistically worthless.
Most people don't talk to strangers at game shops.
Most people don't ask strangers does he like this or that better.
Most people would not answer if a stranger would come and question them at game shops.
Most people don't ask strangers does he like this or that better.
Most people would not answer if a stranger would come and question them at game shops.
at around 250$ more than a dedicated mp3 player
1 gig flash mp3 player would set u back about 100$ usd . 1 gig psp mp3 player would set you back 350$ +
Umd movies . Well sony is just being dense .
They want you to buy movies on dvd then on umd and then again on bluray soon . You as a consumer are happy about this ? Esp when they charge you more for the umd media than the dvd media ? You could get pirates of the carbian for 15$ on dvd , its 20$ + on umd . It wont catch on unless its less than a dvd or sony comes out with cheap home players but then again not many will want to watch a umd quality movie on a tv
Uh there is no problem. People who visit game shops are most likely gamers and as such they're the ones who will end up buying these machines. It's the same as people who visit comic book shops. If most people say they prefer X comic over Y comic then most likely that's the case for most comic readers. Same with game titles by region of course. If most people purchased PS2s over Xbox at XYZ store then it's mostly likely that's the trend for the majority of the gaming community. And finally an interface is region agnostic so it doesn't matter what region of the world we are talking about.
Your point?
PC-Engine said:
Except Nintendo won't, and Sony doesn't have to. Sony's going to implement the same "trickle-down" strategy that worked so well with the original PlayStation.
First, they come in at the high end of the market with a cool, "grown-up" machine that captures the early adopters and hardcore... they drop the price at a predetermined point to accelerate sales and expand adoption to a new group of consumers... they round out their software library with games in every genre to appeal to every audience... they drop the price a second time to penetrate still further into the mass market... continue building the software library... and voila - another PlayStation empire is built.
Except PSP is unique enough that it will actually create a new market - that for an all-in-one, portable media device that plays games, movies, music, and photos. This little machine's influence and acceptance will reach far beyond that of the existing market for portable game players.
By the time Sony releases PSP3, this thing could be as ubiquitous as the wristwatch.
To expand on that "empire building" comment I made in my last post: Sony's handling of the original PlayStation, and now PSP, shows that it knows how to enter a market and systematically take it over.
You start at the high end and over time, you "trickle down" to the mass market. If it's good enough to cause a flap among the hardcore and enthusiasts at $299 or $249, it's sure as hell good enough for casual users, kids, your mom, and your dog by the time it hits $149 or $99.
This is in stark contrast to Nintendo, which often tries to come in at an affordable price and targeting a younger audience. The problem is, those young kids always want what older kids and adults have.
Maybe they want to feel "grown up," or maybe they just think that slick black PSP their dad plays is the coolest damn thing they've ever seen. Either way, they'll want it, and sooner or later, the price will come down enough for them to have it.
It's a beautiful model, and scary powerful. If I were Nintendo right now, I'd be stocking up on clean underwear, 'cuz the next few years are gonna be messy.
You start at the high end and over time, you "trickle down" to the mass market. If it's good enough to cause a flap among the hardcore and enthusiasts at $299 or $249, it's sure as hell good enough for casual users, kids, your mom, and your dog by the time it hits $149 or $99.
This is in stark contrast to Nintendo, which often tries to come in at an affordable price and targeting a younger audience. The problem is, those young kids always want what older kids and adults have.
Maybe they want to feel "grown up," or maybe they just think that slick black PSP their dad plays is the coolest damn thing they've ever seen. Either way, they'll want it, and sooner or later, the price will come down enough for them to have it.
It's a beautiful model, and scary powerful. If I were Nintendo right now, I'd be stocking up on clean underwear, 'cuz the next few years are gonna be messy.
:? why are you comparing the prices of a simple flash mp3 player and PSP ?jvd said:
The fact PSP is more expensive than a flash player that only plays mp3's doesn't change the fact that the sound quality is very good.
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The UMD's atr the price thay are sold now will have hard time catching on, but if the prices fall or even if an UMD is to be bundled with DVD (at premium price) it should be better.
In addition to UMD, there is another way to view videos on PSP, that has much more potential.
Download them to a memorystick. Already there are many sites that offer free content to download to your PSP, I think it'll be not long when better commercial content will become available. Sony's connect will most likely start offering dl's at cost, I can see MTV doing something with music videos etc...
A fairer comparison would be to one of those flash based video players - PSP has a much bigger and better screen, is cheaper, plays games and UMDs, and looks a lot sexier!
PSP is damn good value, comparing it to a flash memory MP3 player is hilarious - the mp3s are added value, not the only reason he bought it...
PSP is damn good value, comparing it to a flash memory MP3 player is hilarious - the mp3s are added value, not the only reason he bought it...
Oh yeah, and hopefully one day we'll be able to stream video over wi-fi.. damn that would be handy/cool.
Like on a plane - I'm going o/s on a trip with my mates this year, how sweet would it be to have one laptop and everyone can just stream their movies off it?!? Suuuuuuuh-weeeeeet
Like on a plane - I'm going o/s on a trip with my mates this year, how sweet would it be to have one laptop and everyone can just stream their movies off it?!? Suuuuuuuh-weeeeeet
Kolgar said:PC-Engine said:Then you wake up from your dream to face reality--> 5Million+ DS's vs 2Million PSP's.
Oh, please. This is the best reply you could come up with? PC-Engine, you disappoint me. I thought you were smarter than that.
Hey it's essentially a prediction nothing more. What do you want me to say? I can predict Evolution being a generation ahead of PSP too and also being backwards compatible with GBA too, but I won't go that far.
well, I guess only time will show - but I do see things very much like Kolgar. In fact, I remember saying the same things a few months back when PSP was revealed and I sort of got the same reaction back then too.
I also predicted back then that Nintendo will have some lead with the DS, as PSP will be bought by a different audience in its beginning phases - which in fact I think that's exactly the situation we're seeing now. Obviously, no one knows how this will turn out from here, but I'm quite sure that Sony has some strategic plans (price drops, software) coming up which will play a significant role in how the PSP will position itself in the future.
I think Kolgar is pretty spot on that price drops and better software support will soon give a boost to sales and especially leverage the target audience with Gameboy users more directly. I don't really see PSP ever targeting 10 - 14 year olds though, but I do see that the segment of 15+ will show interest and definately the main target audience of 20+ and above (which are the ones buying one now).
If you look at how the PlayStation sold back in 1994/95 - it sure didn't look like a big success - yet it certainly became one and the biggest one to that time.
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps_e.html
I think writing the PSP off just yet and making such comments might just bite you back - just considering Nintendo already lost one time and I don't see the Nintendo DS as the perfect handheld to protect them from a similar faith - despite its lead which is unsurprising anyway.
Kolgar: PM!!!!!111
I also predicted back then that Nintendo will have some lead with the DS, as PSP will be bought by a different audience in its beginning phases - which in fact I think that's exactly the situation we're seeing now. Obviously, no one knows how this will turn out from here, but I'm quite sure that Sony has some strategic plans (price drops, software) coming up which will play a significant role in how the PSP will position itself in the future.
I think Kolgar is pretty spot on that price drops and better software support will soon give a boost to sales and especially leverage the target audience with Gameboy users more directly. I don't really see PSP ever targeting 10 - 14 year olds though, but I do see that the segment of 15+ will show interest and definately the main target audience of 20+ and above (which are the ones buying one now).
If you look at how the PlayStation sold back in 1994/95 - it sure didn't look like a big success - yet it certainly became one and the biggest one to that time.
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps_e.html
I think writing the PSP off just yet and making such comments might just bite you back - just considering Nintendo already lost one time and I don't see the Nintendo DS as the perfect handheld to protect them from a similar faith - despite its lead which is unsurprising anyway.
Kolgar: PM!!!!!111
