2007 major widespread Japanese publisher support for XB360

[thatdude90210]

<raises hand.>
But the problem isn't that the HD DVD version didn't look great--it did. The problem is that the DVD version actually looked pretty damn good. Also, I've only watched a small amount of HD DVD content, so I reserve the right to modify my opinion. :smile:

Same here, except I have the HD-A1. I think DVD is still pretty good. And companies that think just because people are buying HDTV's that everyone will be rushing into spending $500-1500 on HDDVD or Bluray are in for a rude awakening. Until they get to the $100-200 price range, both formats are just fighting for the laserdisk's piece of the pie.

 

[Pozer]

Same here, except I have the HD-A1. I think DVD is still pretty good. And companies that think just because people are buying HDTV's that everyone will be rushing into spending $500-1500 on HDDVD or Bluray are in for a rude awakening. Until they get to the $100-200 price range, both formats are just fighting for the laserdisk's piece of the pie.

Also lcd HDTVs need to be priced about 50% of what they are now to take off in the mainstream. 32" for around $300. Most people I know are still at SD resolution.

 

[quest55720]

I can see a difference with dvd and OTA broadcasts. I am sure I would see the difference with sd DVD vs hd formats. The question is that difference worth close to a 1000 dollars. I would have to buy 2 stand alone players because I am not buying movies 2 times. I won't buy a movie for 10 dollars more I could only play on 1 tv in the house. I switched to DVD when I could afford 2 stand alone players one for each tv in the house people used to watch movies. If blue ray or HD-dvd can get a player out for next christmass that is under 249 then I will move to one of the new formats. The price of entry is just to much for me right now as much as I would love to jump in.

 

[Sis]

I can see a difference with dvd and OTA broadcasts. I am sure I would see the difference with sd DVD vs hd formats. The question is that difference worth close to a 1000 dollars. I would have to buy 2 stand alone players because I am not buying movies 2 times. I won't buy a movie for 10 dollars more I could only play on 1 tv in the house. I switched to DVD when I could afford 2 stand alone players one for each tv in the house people used to watch movies. If blue ray or HD-dvd can get a player out for next christmass that is under 249 then I will move to one of the new formats. The price of entry is just to much for me right now as much as I would love to jump in.

I, too, can see the difference between OTA and DVD. And I'm also sure we could construct a scenario where the difference between DVD and high def DVD (BD or HD DVD) would be obvious. But all things being equal--that is, a very well done DVD versus a very well done high def version--the difference is not as great.

I'd rank it like this, from worst to best:

analog OTA (the bottom 99 channels, here in the states)
digital channels
broadcast High def
DVD (note: some broadcast high def is awesome, but more often then not I see tons of compression artifacts, which is why I rank it lower)
High def discs (HD DVD or BD)

I'm also thinking that if I, somewhat of a whore when it comes to nice TVs and electronics gadgets, is not really blown away by HD DVD, then how do I convince other's to upgrade? My girlfriend's mom recently bought a HD tv and watches all the broadcast content stretched. This mirrored a similar experience I had with my dad a couple years back when he pointed to an analog broadcast of a football game, streteched to fill the widescreen, and said to me, "Ain't high def great?!?!"

EDIT: I should point out that neither of my two HD tvs are ISF calibrated, which may be an issue with my not seeing significant differences.

 

[tcrews]

For me, Hi-def broadcast (Time Warner Cable) is so much better quality than SD DVD, at least on my set (a 1080i rear projection). I mean night and day difference with broadcast Hi-def looking so much better in every aspect (color, contrast, detail).

Now HD DVD has spoiled me as I'm now noticing more compression artifacts on my Hi-def channels. I saw it before, it just didn't stand out like it does now after watching a few movies on HD DVD.

Tom Crews

 

[inefficient]

Choo choo

This thread has totally derailed...

Back on topic. One way MS could increase JP dev support of the 360 could be to get rid of the 50MB download limit for live games. Why do they only want 50MB games but are willing to host movies that are several GB? Sounds like a commitee decision gone wrong.

It's a pay service after all. The cost of hosting the files should not be the issue.

If there was no DL limitation Tekken would have come to the 360. Who knows what other gems PS3 will get as exculsive because of this silly self imposed limitation.

 

[Swervedriver]

Remember when they kept talking about Final Fantasy X possibly going to Xbox last gen? Deja vu.

Also, it would not surprise me if MGS4 ends up going to 360, MGS 1 and 2 went to other consoles, after all.