xbox 360 confirmed pricing
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I am gonna flame, i don't do it much. but 360 is now officially the NEW Dreamcast good luck MS and to there fanbase.
jvd said:
I guess thats why the quote telling devs to keep in mind that the HDD will not always be there was said. I'm wondering what Besida is thinking about this, not to long ago MS WAS making it seem like a HDD would be in the base system (hence alot of the Xbox owners honestly believing that there would be a HDD in the base system).
I'll probably be getting the $399 version...time to start saving up.
I can see why you are smarting over this JVD, it's $100 more than expected, but the UK have got a great deal out if this. Not only is the base model going to attract the right sort or people (If £279.99 is too much, then they aren't the sort of gamer that will use all the other bits so much anyway). £279.99 is still cheaper than expected, and it comes packed with kit.
I think they have done the right thing, Europe is going to be where the next gen is won or lost imo and an aggressive 2 tier pricing strategy, trying to capture casual and 'hardcore' gamer at the same time could pay off.
I take your point that a version minus an HDD could fragment the userbase and make using it to the maximum in games difficult if not impossible. Hopefully developers will find a way to use it when it's there and not restrict the game too much when it's not.
I think they have done the right thing, Europe is going to be where the next gen is won or lost imo and an aggressive 2 tier pricing strategy, trying to capture casual and 'hardcore' gamer at the same time could pay off.
I take your point that a version minus an HDD could fragment the userbase and make using it to the maximum in games difficult if not impossible. Hopefully developers will find a way to use it when it's there and not restrict the game too much when it's not.
Launching with just a $399 console option would imo have been more suicidat for MS. That would have been really too expensive.
Now the customers have an option for a lower priced console.
Especially considering the HDD is not needed for games, releasing only the more expensive pacage would have been silly.
Now, if it was wise not to make the HD mandatory for (some) games, that's another thing.
But I don't see it hurting sony that much next gen, why should it MS, especially if the console indeed is at least as if not more powerful than PS3 (according to Microsoft's words) they should need no worry
Now the customers have an option for a lower priced console.
Especially considering the HDD is not needed for games, releasing only the more expensive pacage would have been silly.
Now, if it was wise not to make the HD mandatory for (some) games, that's another thing.
But I don't see it hurting sony that much next gen, why should it MS, especially if the console indeed is at least as if not more powerful than PS3 (according to Microsoft's words) they should need no worry
Makes you wonder, aside from the nvidia licensing kerfuffle, how much did the loss on every xbox sold this gen scare MS.
Of course this doesn't mean its game over by any stretch. If the PS3 launches without the HD too all it'll mean is one aspect of the consoles being a level playing field. Just that MS have the good fortune to start 6 months ahead.
Of course this doesn't mean its game over by any stretch. If the PS3 launches without the HD too all it'll mean is one aspect of the consoles being a level playing field. Just that MS have the good fortune to start 6 months ahead.
I don't care about the price. I care that now the hardrive is worthless. Its jsut going to be one big memory card and used for a hand full of games if even
Thats great for europe. However we still loose out on the hardrive because now dev support jsut wont be there like it would be if it was packed in .
Now i'm thinking of buying a r520 this holiday and getting a ns5 when it comes out .
hmmm... I wouldn't bet on the "huge" 3rd party support, it's not that much more huge than it has been for xbox.
Not bad at all, but not something that itself would be enough to make xbox360 the top console or even necessarily help it survive.
Suppor at launc tells little about support later on.
Not bad at all, but not something that itself would be enough to make xbox360 the top console or even necessarily help it survive.
Suppor at launc tells little about support later on.
To be honest I'm very surprised by this. The advantages & postive feedback MS must have surely picked up this gen, by the inclusion of the HDD, should've had some input into their current thinking surely.
In an ideal world the debacle over the PS2 HDD should make up everyone's mind for them.
However, Oblivion and the convenience of a HDD aside I don't think it's THAT bad. Gears of War will still play! The biggest drawback is for the dev's. Closed boxes should be exactly that: closed boxes.
In an ideal world the debacle over the PS2 HDD should make up everyone's mind for them.
However, Oblivion and the convenience of a HDD aside I don't think it's THAT bad. Gears of War will still play! The biggest drawback is for the dev's. Closed boxes should be exactly that: closed boxes.
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Very true...and this is probably why (sorry to inject Sony into this) Sony was so reluctant in putting a HDD in the system as a package. If it means $100 extra dollars added to the package (and on the PS3, as its already been stated, its not to be used for games in the sense that devlopers intended)..it would be better separetly packaged.
I don't think its a bad move from MS, as one has stated about the price of 2.5" HDDs... its would seem this is ONLY move MS had to make.
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I wonder if Bethseda new this was going to happen and new a percentage of the user base, probably large percentage, aren't going to be able to play Oblivion? I guess for Bethseda it's not too bad as Oblivion's mainly a PC game. It was never going to sell amazingly well on next-gen consoles as there isn't the userbase.
But really I think this move sucks bigtime as there's even less to differentiate the two consoles. XB360 had the prospect of larger games with streamed/cached data. Now it's going to be operating the same as PS3 - neither console looks set to provide epic games that need large fast writeable storage. Unless they use flash storage (128 megabytes free memory card space required to play this game). Or Sony include an HDD as standard and go with the higher price, meaning slower initial uptake but a stronger future with a more capable system as prices become mainstream. I really think if Sony bite the bullet and take the inital hits they can clear up if the XB360 HDD fails to dominate.
But really I think this move sucks bigtime as there's even less to differentiate the two consoles. XB360 had the prospect of larger games with streamed/cached data. Now it's going to be operating the same as PS3 - neither console looks set to provide epic games that need large fast writeable storage. Unless they use flash storage (128 megabytes free memory card space required to play this game). Or Sony include an HDD as standard and go with the higher price, meaning slower initial uptake but a stronger future with a more capable system as prices become mainstream. I really think if Sony bite the bullet and take the inital hits they can clear up if the XB360 HDD fails to dominate.
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