Current Generation Games Analysis Technical Discussion [2024] [XBSX|S, PS5, PC]

[Globalisateur]

You may not get raytracing for $400 but raytracing isn’t necessary for a great experience.

Indeed. Of course gameplay and fun will always be the most important but even on the technical side a smooth and stable framerate is way more important than RT. And even the most powerful PC won't give you that all the time.

 

[davis.anthony]

This is absurd nonsense.

If objectively factual.

We've spent the past 10+ years of PC gaming where you absolutely did not need any kind of high end hardware to have a great overall experience.

And you still don't need high end hardware to have a great overall experience.

This is literally one of the biggest reasons PC gaming grew so much from like 2010-2016.

Casuals weren't buying $400 GPU's in that time.

You didn't need to buy expensive, high end PC hardware to have a really good experience.

And you still don't.

The value aspect was excellent and it helped grow the PC market massively because of it.

It still is excellent.

You're now trying to argue that people who spend say just $250-400 on their GPU were supposedly always getting some 'not decent' experience. Nope. It's exactly opposite. Those people were usually always getting a great experience.

First of all, no one arguing, so wind your neck in and change your tone.

$250-400 GPU's still give people a great experience.

$400 gets you a 7700XT, which is a great little GPU.

It's only more recently where that $250-400 range gets you a 'less than decent' experience, requiring heavy sacrifices in some area or another if you expect to have ray tracing.

It's no different to wanting to use HDR lighting or tessellation back in the day on lower end GPU's and not being able too because they couldn't handle it.

It's a whole different world entirely nowadays. For $250-400, you get a lower end GPU that requires heavy sacrifices if you expect to run ray tracing effects.

Then people need to temper their expectations.

This is not progress.

No, but it's no worse either.

 

[Remij]

Jetpack Interactive have released another patch for God of War Ragnarok, and this patch fixes the tessellation issue of it not being up to the quality of the PS5 version! It also brings optimizations for Zen 1 and Zen 2 processors in CPU bound scenarios, among other stability and control fixes.



I believe that is now all of the issues DF brought up in their analysis fixed.

 

[raytracingfan]

$250-400 used to get you console quality at 2x the framerate or more. Now it gets you console quality or worse. The price of entry for a given level of experience has gone up quite dramatically at almost every tier..

Shouldn't this be the expected outcome of consoles going from a GTX 670 equivalent to an RTX 2070 equivalent?

 

[trinibwoy]

Shouldn't this be the expected outcome of consoles going from a GTX 670 equivalent to an RTX 2070 equivalent?

Console vs PC comparisons change dramatically over the course of a console generation. I don’t see why a $400 card next year wouldn’t offer a PS5 experience at a discount.

 

[DavidGraham]

I believe that is now all of the issues DF brought up in their analysis fixed.

One issue still remains: the ray traced reflections issue.

 

[Remij]

One issue still remains: the ray traced reflections issue.

Ah right! I always forget about that one! lol

 

[techuse]

Console vs PC comparisons change dramatically over the course of a console generation. I don’t see why a $400 card next year wouldn’t offer a PS5 experience at a discount.

Both console gens weren’t that far off from each other in terms of where they lined up to the PC GPU space. The CPU was where a big leap was made.

 

[Below2D]

$250-400 used to get you console quality at 2x the framerate or more. Now it gets you console quality or worse. The price of entry for a given level of experience has gone up quite dramatically at almost every tier..

The PS4 Pro was also $400. The PS5 Pro is $700. Prices are not the same as before. Unlike the PS4, the PS5 wasn’t underpowered out of the box and cost a mere $500 for the DE.