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PS4 Pro Speculation (PS4K NEO Kaio-Ken-Kutaragi-Kaz Neo-san)
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Eurogamer confirms spec leak: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-sonys-plan-for-playstation-4k-neo-revealed
This is happening.
Also reports that no indication of UHD Blu-ray support.
This is happening.
Also reports that no indication of UHD Blu-ray support.
Wut.
New GPU architecture and access to new GPU-specific functions? That excess of GPU power makes me think Compute. If more stuff can be moved over to compute (AI, physics, etc), then the GPU grunt will be beneficial without, maybe, being BW bottlenecked. Because the upgrade is really unbalanced. >Double GPU power, minor increases everywhere else?
"On top of that, while the documentation says that the hard drive will remain the same (Sony has several in circulation, so we assume it means 2.5-inch laptop drives generally) there are no indications of any changes to the Blu-ray drive. This is surprising, as we would have assumed that Sony would take this opportunity to support the new UHD 4K movie standard, supporting standard 50GB discs along with 66GB and 100GB variants. For now it seems that developers are set to stick with 50GB of storage."
Of course they will include 4K movie support! Are they mad??
Latest GCN (1.2) were far more BW efficient with all the delta compression stuff innit.
I was won over to the BR4K idea, so I find it a bit surprising.
Unless ... as these are dev documents and games will all be forced to ship on PS4 compatible disks, they just see no need to reveal BR4K at this time?
I'm glad they are not. Waste of money. I 'd rather them put that money into better wireless card as everybody streams video content nowadays.
Love_In_Rio
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Well, we should take into account also HSA evolution Carrizo brought in ( gpu preemption, coherence, context switching...) would make compute more feasible, suppossing it will be in NEO. Distinction between Onion and Garlic buses dissapears and there is only an unique ONION 3 bus both for CPU and GPU memory accesses.
Media Molecule must be happy with its new toy.
That eurogamer article has fairly detailed analysis. They speculate that GPU is Polaris architecture.
Interesting part:
"Our concern was that PS4's low-level APIs may not be compatible with the newer architecture, meaning problems running older games, but it seems that this is not an issue. And the good news here is that Polaris' efficiency improvements could add still further to the expected increase in performance. Certainly, we should expect to see cumulative improvements to memory compression, which should help us to get more out of the constricted 256-bit GDDR5 interface. To the best of our knowledge, there were no such technologies in place on the original PlayStation 4."
Interesting part:
"Our concern was that PS4's low-level APIs may not be compatible with the newer architecture, meaning problems running older games, but it seems that this is not an issue. And the good news here is that Polaris' efficiency improvements could add still further to the expected increase in performance. Certainly, we should expect to see cumulative improvements to memory compression, which should help us to get more out of the constricted 256-bit GDDR5 interface. To the best of our knowledge, there were no such technologies in place on the original PlayStation 4."
If there is cross-compatibility between both models it means 50GB bluray discs imposed for all Neo games. So either way developers will forever be stuck with 50GB discs on Neo even if the retail console could actually read 100GB 4K movies.
Another part when Mr. Leadbetter completely misses the point. This hardware is clearly designed for PSVR in mind. How can he not see it?
Right so there you go. Never looked at it that way but makes sense if you are only releasing one version of the game that works on both systems.
Love_In_Rio
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If NEO version is just resolution boost I am out. I still have a 720p tv. Each time i play my PS4 games i think about the wasted power going for not enjoyed pixels boost... Imagine buying a PS4K with 4K native games (that could led to even worse frame rates) and still playing in a 720p tv...
In fact is winning weight the option of buying a small case PC for the living room once HBM2 gpus are out and make "Steam" my console of choice. I would run games at 720p 250 fps! (and would pay less for them!).
An example:
Polaris 10 demoed with passive cooling and a better cpu than Jaguar for sure:
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upnorthsox
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No, everybody doesn't
I didn't specifically say UHD Bluray. Even Netflix/Amazon 4K+HDR support would be nice. But why go through the trouble of releasing this new platform, and then ignore the new Bluray standard? Doesn't seem very Sony of them.
Most do. Especially the demographic that will buy a game console. Waste of money to push something that will not be adopted to the extent blu-ray was let alone dvd. Again people applying conventional wisdom when it doesn't make sense in terms where everything is headed.
Hardcore gamers make up less than 7% of gaming... so thank God, the majority of gamers aren't that fickled.
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