Hazuki Ryu
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hey guys i've got mass effect today i have to say character models look very impressive im very curious about the polygon count
"Yes, but how many polygons?" An artist blog entry with interesting numbers
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Hazuki Ryu
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hmm thought it would have a number like that
"Nerve-Damage"
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Question: How many polygons are used per character?
Answer: Well, we can't give an exact number as some characters will have more polys than others based on things like their size, complexity, whether they have weapons or armor, and that sort of thing.
But to give a rough idea, I'll use Sheppard as an example. A model of Sheppard wearing armor and carrying weapons will be somewhere in the range of 20,000 to 25,000 polygons. This would change a bit based on his armor, whether he is carry a weapon, which weapon, etc, but it's a good rough idea. Hope this helps.
Hazuki Ryu
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have u guys looked at soul calibur IV? that looks like a high poligon count on the characters
An entire map in Turok: Dinosaur Hunter has ~300,000 polygons, according to the box.
Not too impressive, considering the distance fogging.
I'd like to know the original Killzone's polygon counts for the characters. They were running alot and without shaders to simulate the effects of higher amounts of polygons, they had to push alot of them. I really would've liked to have seen how this game could've looked on the PC, like it was originally intended.
archangelmorph
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Probably alot like Killzone 2 looks now..
Um, it wasn't supposed to be "impressive," especially since at 30fps, the N64 can't even theoretically draw more than 4K polys in a frame. Even without the fog, you wouldn't be able to see all that many polygons. It's just interesting to see how 300K polys in 1996 meant enormous levels measured in miles, while today it's common to see three times that many in a single frame.
I can report that Marcus Fenix in Gears is actually 10500 triangles, having downloaded the freely available character model from the official UE mod site. Several publications have reported 15K, which may still be true - with all three weapons equipped.
The cinematics version might be more detailed though, however my guess is that it's just using a higher resolution version of the textures compared to the ingame model.
The cinematics version might be more detailed though, however my guess is that it's just using a higher resolution version of the textures compared to the ingame model.
My mistake then.
Betanumerical
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Sorry to bump this discussion, but back when I comment on GG saying that a single character in KZ2 had the same amount of polygons as a level in KZ1, someone mentioned that it was most likely normal/bump mapping, but I was just re reading the interview and they mentioned that hadn't implemented bump/normal mapping at that time. What could that number be from?. 
I could just be reading it wrong.
I could just be reading it wrong.Sorry to bump this discussion, but back when I comment on GG saying that a single character in KZ2 had the same amount of polygons as a level in KZ1, someone mentioned that it was most likely normal/bump mapping, but I was just re reading the interview and they mentioned that hadn't implemented bump/normal mapping at that time. What could that number be from?.
There is no way KZ1 level come close to a polygon model that is used to generate normal map for characters.
Betanumerical
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No it for the polygon amount of the source model where the normalmaps are created from. Then the ingame models have far far less amount of polygons but the normalmaps to givee the impression of more geometry than it actually has (the intention of mapping techniques).
Unless the a complete level in KZ1 consists of less than 15k polys then this is the talk for the source model and really a worthless "brag" number. In that case I think a UT3 or GEoW character takes the prize by faaar talking about source model for creating normalmaps!
There is a ss of an character from KZ2 upclose where the geometry is really very visible (edges etc) and I would even say below 10k polys IMO.
Unless the a complete level in KZ1 consists of less than 15k polys then this is the talk for the source model and really a worthless "brag" number. In that case I think a UT3 or GEoW character takes the prize by faaar talking about source model for creating normalmaps!
There is a ss of an character from KZ2 upclose where the geometry is really very visible (edges etc) and I would even say below 10k polys IMO.
Betanumerical
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You talking about either of these?. Because I don't see jaggies on the characters, if thats what polygon edges are.
You talking about either of these?. Because I don't see jaggies on the characters, if thats what polygon edges are.
Not aliasing, the actual polygon edges i.e. low polygon count = lots of noticeable straight edges.
e.g. try approximating a football with 50 polygons versus 500.
As Alstrong said, and I also remember a promo ss of high res with a soldier upclose which was good to see the geometry (It is somewhere in the KZ2 thread).
This ss shows some edges, looking at it upclose and with brigthness upped, hands fingers head arms etc (not saying it is bad just that it aint got as much polys as a KZ1 level... or even a mile close to that).
The promo ss is far better though but it is somewhere in the KZ2 thread.
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/img_4826656.html
This ss shows some edges, looking at it upclose and with brigthness upped, hands fingers head arms etc (not saying it is bad just that it aint got as much polys as a KZ1 level... or even a mile close to that).
The promo ss is far better though but it is somewhere in the KZ2 thread.
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748475/img_4826656.html
Those source models are an order or two of magnitude higher, they are in the millions of polygon.
Well, I am guessing more like around 50k for the smaller level.
Heck VF5 characters are around 50k and you can see polygon edges in those too when view up close. Unless they find a really good and smart dynamic subdivision algorithm that can work in game it's going to be expensive removing those edges in characters and objects.