XBox One, PS4, DRM, and You
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Alright, I now see UV has reached out more than it had in the beginning. That's a good thing. The bad thing is as others have said, everyone is pissing the customers by trying to roll their own service instead of joining a collective that has momentum.
It's funny MrFox mentioned HD-DVD, as this online streaming has exactly the same feel but significantly worse. I got stung by the HD-DVD/BluRay battle, so now I'm viewing current platforms in much the same light -- until there's one mass platform I'll stick to what I know works. That's currently owning the physical media and ripping them to my 6 drive 10TB unRAID Media Server and using any combination of HTPC WinMC/Plex/uPNP/dlna to stream.
It's funny MrFox mentioned HD-DVD, as this online streaming has exactly the same feel but significantly worse. I got stung by the HD-DVD/BluRay battle, so now I'm viewing current platforms in much the same light -- until there's one mass platform I'll stick to what I know works. That's currently owning the physical media and ripping them to my 6 drive 10TB unRAID Media Server and using any combination of HTPC WinMC/Plex/uPNP/dlna to stream.
Yeah, in both presentations, when they show a big wall of little squares with a hundred different logos for a hundred variations of similar services... that's a big indicator there something terribly wrong.
It's crazy isn't it.. they can all agree (after being forced and or burned hard) to publish movies on Blu-Ray.
But imagine them sitting down , looking into each other eyes and saying.. "hey lets make money.. lots of money, lets create a UNIFIED DD service". The amount of power they would yield would be staggering.
Hearts of men are easily corrupted. It began with the forging of the Great Unified DD service .
My favourite subscription-based service is Xbox Music. I love it!! It's much better than Zune.
I would love to download full albums or buy music videos, but unless someone tells me how to, I didn't actually found a way to purchase a video or a song from my favourite singer -I did in the past, before Xbox Music was implemented-.
Maybe I am missing something...
People had been talking about the DRM issues on the Xbox One -among other stuff- and I would like to mention them in a humorous tone. Some of the suppositions have been hilarious, given Microsoft's silence and their veil of secrecy on the subject.
- Xbox One. Some people wonder why they chose that name for the new console. Microsoft named it Xbox One because it is the original Xbox 1 in its innards. It is the same console. "We have decided to launch it again", said Microsoft. That's why the Xbox 360 gamepads aren't going to work on the new console, but the original Xbox gamepads will work. :smile:
- Microsoft's employees spent a year learning and practicing how to clap and make as much noise as possible during the presentation so people thought that there were like 20,000 people applauding during the Xbox Reveal when there were actually like 4 people clapping. :smile: Some of them lost the lines in the palm of their hands as a consequence of that and the ridges of the lines in the palm of their hands aren't visible anymore.
- The cloud... Microsoft say it is the future. People associate the cloud with something that brings rain and can ruin the crops. There is a going to be a great focus on the dogs in the next generation. The cloud will help to convert the dogs into a bigger animal, like a horse or something like that. Thanks to the cloud next gen is going to be the generation of the dogs (Cesar Millan helped on the development of the console) and the sparks (particles).
- Dedicated servers. Finally people can enjoy dedicated servers on Xbox Live! They are truly dedicated servers. Dedicated to charge money. So yeah, dedicated servers to charge.
- Always online. When you buy a Xbox One, a Microsoft's construction worker will go with you to your home. He is going to make reinforced cement and take both ends of your Ethernet cable and form a patch of cement both in the console's end and the Ethernet output of your router. :smile:
- Used game sales. "The only thing we want is to change the rules of the game, because in the current situation if you sell your game, the only person profiting from that is you, and we don't want this to happen. The only thing we are going to do is inflating the price of used games so it isn't only you profiting from them. Well, this isn't going to be detrimental to anyone. Okay... maybe new games will be cheaper than used games once we do that, and maybe completing and earning a computer science degree and programming your own game is going to be cheaper than buying a second hand game. But anywyays... What's done, is done. We must make the best of it now" said Microsoft. LULZ
- On Kinect spying you in your bedroom at night. And having it all day recording and listening to you... Microsoft mentioned that the always listening mic in your room is a good thing. "People are always complaining about others not listening to them, and now we are listening to them 24 hours a day, and there is nothing wrong with this." said Microsoft.
Thanks to Pexter for his awesomeness and his wild imagination -most of the text is part of a youtube video I decided to transcribe here with some little addition of my own here and there-.
Don't take this as criticism in any way. This is meant in an humorous style.
I don't want to write a thesis, so I will stop here, although I would like to share a video first... "If XBOX ONE were a girl".
- Xbox One. Some people wonder why they chose that name for the new console. Microsoft named it Xbox One because it is the original Xbox 1 in its innards. It is the same console. "We have decided to launch it again", said Microsoft. That's why the Xbox 360 gamepads aren't going to work on the new console, but the original Xbox gamepads will work. :smile:
- Microsoft's employees spent a year learning and practicing how to clap and make as much noise as possible during the presentation so people thought that there were like 20,000 people applauding during the Xbox Reveal when there were actually like 4 people clapping. :smile: Some of them lost the lines in the palm of their hands as a consequence of that and the ridges of the lines in the palm of their hands aren't visible anymore.
- The cloud... Microsoft say it is the future. People associate the cloud with something that brings rain and can ruin the crops. There is a going to be a great focus on the dogs in the next generation. The cloud will help to convert the dogs into a bigger animal, like a horse or something like that. Thanks to the cloud next gen is going to be the generation of the dogs (Cesar Millan helped on the development of the console) and the sparks (particles).
- Dedicated servers. Finally people can enjoy dedicated servers on Xbox Live! They are truly dedicated servers. Dedicated to charge money. So yeah, dedicated servers to charge.
- Always online. When you buy a Xbox One, a Microsoft's construction worker will go with you to your home. He is going to make reinforced cement and take both ends of your Ethernet cable and form a patch of cement both in the console's end and the Ethernet output of your router. :smile:
- Used game sales. "The only thing we want is to change the rules of the game, because in the current situation if you sell your game, the only person profiting from that is you, and we don't want this to happen. The only thing we are going to do is inflating the price of used games so it isn't only you profiting from them. Well, this isn't going to be detrimental to anyone. Okay... maybe new games will be cheaper than used games once we do that, and maybe completing and earning a computer science degree and programming your own game is going to be cheaper than buying a second hand game. But anywyays... What's done, is done. We must make the best of it now" said Microsoft. LULZ
- On Kinect spying you in your bedroom at night. And having it all day recording and listening to you... Microsoft mentioned that the always listening mic in your room is a good thing. "People are always complaining about others not listening to them, and now we are listening to them 24 hours a day, and there is nothing wrong with this." said Microsoft.
Thanks to Pexter for his awesomeness and his wild imagination -most of the text is part of a youtube video I decided to transcribe here with some little addition of my own here and there-.
Don't take this as criticism in any way. This is meant in an humorous style.
I don't want to write a thesis, so I will stop here, although I would like to share a video first... "If XBOX ONE were a girl".
Plus the phone call afterwards to tell you that herpes isn't that bad, the video's on YouTube, and you can watch the repeat on TV...
The video is hilarious!! That's the kind of PR that MS has to fight against at E3.
Yep, let's see
I hope we were clear enough, obviously the xbox crowd was actually strongly FOR online drm, so it was a lost cause from the start. Maybe there's still hope for the Sony crowd.
Otherwise I guess we're all f*cked,
Well MS may try to paint this as something the publishers demanded. If that's true, you'd see both Nintendo and Sony having to do something similar.
So far Nintendo hasn't, though they barely have any 3rd-party support for the WiiU. But that's probably more to do with sales.
If we do have a situation where Xbone is the only one with this used-game policy, I think the metrics on games sales and overall revenues should be interesting.
Publishers may be able to get their cut of used-games transactions but they may also find that new games sales take a hit, as many people buy new games with the intent to re-sell to get some money back, often to pay for more new games purchases.
BTW, what will some countries have to say about this apparent circumvention of first-sale doctrine?
So far Nintendo hasn't, though they barely have any 3rd-party support for the WiiU. But that's probably more to do with sales.
If we do have a situation where Xbone is the only one with this used-game policy, I think the metrics on games sales and overall revenues should be interesting.
Publishers may be able to get their cut of used-games transactions but they may also find that new games sales take a hit, as many people buy new games with the intent to re-sell to get some money back, often to pay for more new games purchases.
BTW, what will some countries have to say about this apparent circumvention of first-sale doctrine?
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Has this been posted already?
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main
Edit: oh boy, some things are a bit of a tough cookie. You have to carefully read things to get beyond the PR formulations. I guess that lots of people going to be upset about this.
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main
Edit: oh boy, some things are a bit of a tough cookie. You have to carefully read things to get beyond the PR formulations. I guess that lots of people going to be upset about this.
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We'll have to see. I suspect however that if re-selling of Steam games are allowed in the EU, you aren't going to see as many Steam sales. The other problem is there's nothing "used" about a license. That isn't going to get people to buy a new copy if the cheap digital version exists as well.
Hmmm, what if the participating retailers go bust? There aren't too many options in the UK and they've been on-and-off collapsing for a while now.
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But on the other side, a recommended 1.5Mbps broadband inet is not that much.
Indeed even I reach 3,Mbp though that is in download, upload is south of 500k. Ping ain't sexy at all siuth of 80ms no matter what I try to ping.
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