Xbox One (Durango) Technical hardware investigation

This might be a stretch, but I think those people were hired to work on the Next NextBox.

 

Maybe what he was meaning is "MS once did one design with 8 x86 cores, 32MB of embedded memory, and 12 shader blocks...."

By the way, few weeks ago a dude in a spanish forum wrote the system power is <150W-160W, then he pointed this fact was in VG Leaks but I haven´t found this fact in their current page.

 

Yes, No :/ operating systems are not really the most power hungry of beasts out there.

 

Hmm not sure where you were going with that one. You are saying the once as in the past?

 

My turn:

Did you mean there could be another cpu design along with the one you said?

 

Well, that's an excellent explanation. The most charming aspect of the console resides there, because MS seeks a highly customized and efficient console. It doesn't need to be the most powerful console.

p.s. lots of naughty boys in the forum as of late, I wonder what happened!

 

Guys, it was simple as Mr. Kilian killing rumors yet at other times being silent. Glean from that which you may ...

 

A bit off topic, so I apologize ahead of time, but I've been wondering (purely hypothetically) if the design MS has come up with for the Durango GPU (12CU, 32MB esram, DMEs), as per vgleaks, would be more amenable to a multiple GPU system. That is to say, there's been some talk on B3D that MS may have optimized for a virtual texturing focused software TBDR, and I think SLI/crossfire work roughly the same, as a kind of specialized software TBDR (please, correct me if I'm wrong), so I wonder if Durango's design could make use of the DMEs and esram in order to make a multiple GPU system more viable by increasing the efficiency of such a setup?

I'm assuming the big issue (economics aside) with multiple GPUs is efficiency, which is pretty poor in PCs, as far as I'm aware, and so by driving up efficiency, it might be viable.

 

In cases where crossfire scales it usually scales quite well so I don't think it's an efficiency issue.

I don't really see the advantage of going with crossfire over just devoting more silicon to a higher performance gpu in the first place. Unless you think they really wanted a 7970, but just could not fit that into an apu.

 

Who?

What going on with these riddles? Just break it down for us please!

 

On the bottom right, theres the block that is labeled as "Display" which has an write speed of 1.1 GB/s (8.8 Gb/s), which i suppose is the HDMI video output?

If that's the case, why is the read speed 3.9 GB/s? if this is the HDMI input, seems like there might be more than 1 input?

 

Pretty much. The only reason I could see going for a multiple GPU scenario was if a single GPU just wasn't feasible with their constraints. I don't know, but I imagine even just doubling the purported GPU specs, something like a 24 CU, 64MB 6T-ESRAM APU, would probably be too large as a single chip, let alone properly fed.

I didn't know crossfire scaled so well, though. I had been under the impression that at best it was only a 50% increase in general performance. Ah well, I thought I had a neat idea. Thanks, alpha.

 

So, best way to keep a secret is set it before everybody?
I'm sorry, just do love the riddles...

 

I am not obliged to conceal my identity but will do so, I would like to guarantee that this information is sound as of the last 2 months but cannot; the silicon should be near final from what I am told.
What I will say will not necessarily be well received nor believed, my sole reason for this is the inability for the intelligent to actually see beyond the stem of misinformation based as accuracy. Further to mention that I am actually a fan of MSFT products and felt this should be said.
The leaks you have are accurate regarding the Durango v2.2 development kits but what has gone over the heads of many is that MSFT has incorporated a dual mainboard, dual APU system. Essentially MSFT will reveal a system with 2 times what VGL has leaked in one housing.
AMD have said the PS4 has the most powerful APU ever made right now, this is true, instead MSFT decided to go with a dual setup whilst Sony have overclocked to near 2.012GHz.
You shall hear more come March 6.

 

So... Welcome to b3d. Enjoy your stay.

 

Interesting, but I would be highly surprised if this were true. I would love it to be true, and it would be a lot easier to redesign the main board to accommodate a dual APU system than to redesign the APU, but you would still run into lots of issues like having two independent memory controllers, and a split ESRAM pool. It just seems unlikely.

 

If the rumour of Durango is a two pc tapped together then dual APU system is possible . Otherwise u r reading mistermediax blogs too much !

 

BClifford?

Cliffy B?

would be most epic leak ever lol.

going to say fake.

 

hmmm...things just got very interesting now, let us wait.