Xbox One (Durango) Technical hardware investigation

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  1. Rangers

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    If it's legit there are 50 watts more than the maximum power rating at 360s Xenon revision power supply. Xenon had 90nm with separated GPU and CPU. For me seems a lot of power for that 28nm APU. DDR3, bluray drive and 2.5" HDD should not take too much.

    Anyway, for me it's a complete surprise from Microsoft, given it's fears about 360 overheating and RROD above all at first revisions.
     
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    The launch 360 looks weird - it drew up to 180W from the wall, whilst the PSU was apparently only rated at 203W.

    I'd be very surprised if a generation+1 PSU has that kind of ratio. (MS seem to imply on their site that the 360 PSU was actually rated at 245W/280W).
     
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    So maximum power consumption = 253.03Wh - maximum Output = 214.8

    Am I right in thinking that considering these values the efficiency of the power supply would be around 85% (214.8/253.03) at max Load... That´s actually quite good
     
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    The real question is what unit is Wh in Spanish? We have something in France we call "watt heure" could translate into Watt hora in Spanish?
    Though it is a measurement of energy not "power" ( like the difference between Watts vs Joules) and the number is weird as in that context it would be too tiny, it would require a K in front of Wh and it would related to a pretty low power draw.
    Calculation goes like that, Power (in Watts) x3.6 = xx in (KWh) Which in this case would be mean 70 Watts under use.
     
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    Sorry, but your calculations are wrong

    1 Wh = 3600 Ws (Wattseconds) = 3600 Joule = 3,6 Kilojoule (kJ)

    253.03Wh => System consumes 253.03 Watts in 1 hour
     
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    It's hard to know what the numbers mean, but AFAICT:
    - drawing 4.91A at ~110V AC suggests an actual rating nearer 500W.
    - Wh are typically used in billing, so I'd suggest any such figure indicates 'average' or 'maximum' realistic power draw over time?
    - the second Wh is 'standby' mode at "0.11Wh".

    One slight worry is that for a PSU straight off the factory floor, it doesn't look very new... and the presence of Chinese, along with lack of certification symbols & a single legible font may indicate that it isn't a final unit (i.e. this might be a devkit PSU?).
     
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    are you talking about the launch 360? Because the maximum was 280 watts, so this would be 30 watts less.

    http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-360/console-power/power-supply

    and like others have said, the benchmarks pegged the 360 usually around 180-185 during gaming.

    Also you didn't take Kinect in to account. I think people are underestimating the amount of watts Kinect uses if the thing requires a fan to keep it cool.
     
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    The slim 360s have an new aux port, the old models will need a separate power adapter (included in the standalone kinect package)
     
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    If you were using the older X360. For newer slims, the extra power cord was not needed and Kinect was powered from the console.
     
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    ah, thank you for the clarification.
     
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    hum... that is why I wrote it would need a K in front. Usually while I was doing some electricity (and in other fields) it was done quite often to use 3.6 instead of 3600 and simply change the units accordingly (from Meter per second to say kilometer per hours -> multiply by 3.6)

    Anyway if Wh is a unit related to energy (as Joules), the numbers doesn't make much sense to me.
    Either way as I know some people do they simply use Wh instead of KWh as for most devices commonly used for which that type of unit is used that is not irrelevant burn more the one KWh.

    Anyway any Spanish or People from South America around here?
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    I think I just got your answer, though what you write is that the number relates to 253 joules burnt in one hour and a lot less idle, it is peanut, or peanut dust more precisely.
    Either way I think more and more they passed on the K for the reason I stated above.
     
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    My Xbox 360 power brick have all the back sticker text in english and chinese, not spanish words (I bought my Xbox 360 Slim on Mexico). It is weird to read two sentences on spanish.
     
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    Probably because its a clone. I think some Chinese company is selling Xbox One power brick shells with non Xbox One internals.

    Given that the first part is english/chinese, the second is spanish and then the third is english/chinese makes me wonder if copy and paste was used to produce the sticker.
     
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    Posted on reddit:

    http://i.imgur.com/TJnLy6J.jpg

    Left: Northamerican (dev kit)
    Right: International.

    Legit?
     
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    Matches my MS HD-DVD power brick and Arcade brick (not all the xxxx out bits naturally) but it is mutli-language just like those.
     
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    According to my google Fu


    Xenon (first 360 version) used somewhat less output power than this rumored X1 (prototype?) PSU. 203W vs ~220.

    That's surprising I guess.

    Though there is Kinect to consider. I'm not sure a motorless Kinect would draw a lot, but that extra 15 watts might be in play?
     
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