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What will Xbox do

  • Player owned digital libraries now on cloud

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Multiplatform all exclusives to all platforms

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Multiplatform only select exclusive titles

    Votes: 8 61.5%
  • Surface hardware strategy

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • 3rd party hardware strategy

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • Mobile hardware strategy

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • Slim Revision hardware strategy

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • This will be a nothing burger

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • *new* Xbox Games for Mobile Strategy

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • *new* Executive leadership changes (ie: named leaders moves/exits/retires)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
Still not sure what you mean by this. I can side-load any app I want. I can use other stores. I can copy their OS and make my own version. That's not much of an iron fist; more a soft cat-grooming-mitten.
the point was that Android, some other differences aside, is a somewhat similar ecosystem to what Valve and MS want to do with their respective ecosystems.

What I don't understand is why there aren't governments, institutions, and people copying Android and making their own version of it and have a custom phone for everyone. If nothing stops you from having that, I wonder why Russia for instance didn't take that approach.

A friend that studied with me had one of those custom versions of Android in his phone iirc, he used the phone normally. Despite all the openness Google must be managing their ecosystem with an iron hand because of the money involved.

@mr magoo last time I tried Teams it worked quite well but I didn't find it super appealing. This was almost 3 years ago though. It had some cool features though, like a forum-like approach for various things, file sharing, etc.
 
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@mr magoo last time I tried Teams it worked quite well but I didn't find it super appealing. This was almost 3 years ago though. It had some cool features though, like a forum-like approach for various things, file sharing, etc.
Sure I get that. My perspective is quite different I switched worked where we used slack + zoom to teams. It not only combines best of both but also let you more easily schedule meetings. Now I work in company with few hundreds people employed, scheduling meeting is very easy as you see directly when person is busy or free propose times when everybody is free. It also maps physical conference room so you book room see what rooms are fee and so on. We have office on 4 floors with 10 meetings room on each. It’s a great asset. The other thing is during the meeting you can take control over other people pc wich traditionally we used other program for. So it has a lot of value that was my point of it being great product. Almost surprising that it came from Microsoft. So please do not crucify me for liking it 😭😉
 
Games cost too much to make, the console audience isn’t growing fast enough, and skipping Steam means missing out on a massive chunk of the market. This year, I think we’ll see Xbox go completely multi-platform and PlayStation get closer and closer.

– Jason Schreier

 
Tbh I want to see that. I don’t want to buy ps5 just becouse there are two or three games I want to play.
Playstation has some exclusives, maybe not as much as Nintendo, and most the PS exclusives are usually technical showcases these days. I always reduce them to 4 or 5 blockbusters.

On a different note, I've been browsing itch.io as of recently -I have an account there since many years ago- and I hope that what Phil Spencer said about integrating stores like Epic Store, Ubisoft, itch.io, on consoles -I guess the full locked one they are working on, and hybrid OEMs-.

I hope that it becomes a reality, it'd be an amazing addition -full of Windows .exe files though, so for the locked console a VM would be needed-. Itch.io store is okay, the interface works fine but it could also be improved using a launcher for the traditional locked console and the hybrid OEMs.

An example of things you can find on itch.io:

 
I'd go as far as saying that they could create a DOSBox store -many people, me included, download the entire library of MSDOS games, which are available somewhere- to play the entire MSDOS catalog on consoles -locked one and hybrid OEMS-.

They could sell the games there at a very fair price and give some money to the developers if their company still exists, if not, sell abandonware games at a very low price. Sure people could have the same for free, but lots of people don't want the hassle, if you automate the process or just let people set the most important options, like resolution of the window, etc, it could be a good option.

They could also create a PCSX2 store. Same simplicity, settings automatically optimised for each title, where Sony could get some money from each "rom", at a very reduced price, and a little fee to PCSX2 developers.

The same for MAME for arcade games, etc etc.

You can have the same for free, but again, it's a huge hassle, especially if you start from scratch or format your drives and you have to download again the same ROM from whatever sites and stuff, setting things up, etc.

Emulation is the thing now, finding copies of games in the end of the world is less popular than it was.

It's be ideal for preservation too.

There is nothing better than Windows for that, and MSDOS is theirs, so..
 
Serkan Toto, an analyst from a japanese company called Kantan games also says it outright.

"2025 might be the year where they go all-in," Toto said. "The $69 billion Activision Blizzard deal, rising costs across the board, the power of forever-titles, the huge lead of Sony, and other factors will likely leave Microsoft no choice but to bring all their big games to PS5 early, including blockbusters such as Gears of War: E-Day or Perfect Dark."


 
Amongst graphics enthusiasts yes, I don't think I saw a single 'normal' person talk about it. It's a pretty niche title like Hellblade, I'm sure its a good game and it looks well made but not exactly blockbuster tier (think generation-defining titles like RDR, Halo 3, COD4 and whatnot).
a blockbuster to me is a historic game, like say the original Mario. Nintendo had all their games on the NES, arcades, handhelds and so on, until they created Mario in 1985 and realised how good it was. Ocean asked them to license Mario and launch it on many devices but Nintendo said no. They sold 65 million NES consoles thanks to that.

Times have changed....

How many historical games have Sony, MS and Nintendo released in recent years? None. The current blockbusters are Fortnite, FIFA, CoD...

How many people went to the shop like mad to buy an Xbox when MS acquired Activision with all that it entails exclusivities wise? And Bethesda? I can say it. None went.
 
a blockbuster to me is a historic game, like say the original Mario. Nintendo had all their games on the NES, arcades, handhelds and so on, until they created Mario in 1985 and realised how good it was. Ocean asked them to license Mario and launch it on many devices but Nintendo said no. They sold 65 million NES consoles thanks to that.

Times have changed....

How many historical games have Sony, MS and Nintendo released in recent years? None. The current blockbusters are Fortnite, FIFA, CoD...

How many people went to the shop like mad to buy an Xbox when MS acquired Activision with all that it entails exclusivities wise? And Bethesda? I can say it. None went.
And how many people would buy an Xbox if it were announced that Elder Scrolls 6 would be released exclusively for this console? I know, they have already moved to multiplatform, but a name like TES6 would be a system seller in itself. And the truth is that MS has all the resources to launch up to 5 of these big absolute popular titles.

I think this was Spencer's original plan, but the Nadellas didn't wait any longer because the developments kept slipping and sliding. 2-3 exclusives of average popularity are not enough, the big names should have been brought on time. They had about 5 years. But since it didn't turn out that way, they are switching to multiplatform.
 
And how many people would buy an Xbox if it were announced that Elder Scrolls 6 would be released exclusively for this console?
Well, for one, MS committed to releasing all of its games on PC alongside Xbox like 5-6 years ago so this was probably never going to be a strategy for MS, they had already committed to this by the time they bought Bethesda.

Also, to answer your hypothetical: not many. Bethesda makes games like its still 2011, Starfield was widely known as 'Midfield', nobody is buying a console to play a modern Bethesda game after that. They will probably just wait for it to inevitably come to PC.

Problem is MS is always fighting the last war. You can't make a console great by buying has-been third party devs and having them become first party, you make it great by cultivating the next big thing. In the age of giant live service games they actually own one of them now, they ought to embrace the new reality and try to create something PS doesn't have instead of trying to release the best game of 2011. Or I guess just become a game publisher with a console lol.
 
Well, for one, MS committed to releasing all of its games on PC alongside Xbox like 5-6 years ago so this was probably never going to be a strategy for MS, they had already committed to this by the time they bought Bethesda.

Also, to answer your hypothetical: not many. Bethesda makes games like its still 2011, Starfield was widely known as 'Midfield', nobody is buying a console to play a modern Bethesda game after that. They will probably just wait for it to inevitably come to PC.

Problem is MS is always fighting the last war. You can't make a console great by buying has-been third party devs and having them become first party, you make it great by cultivating the next big thing. In the age of giant live service games they actually own one of them now, they ought to embrace the new reality and try to create something PS doesn't have instead of trying to release the best game of 2011. Or I guess just become a game publisher with a console lol.

Their original concept was console exclusivity and they achieved success with lots exclusive games with the Xbox 360.

Then came the Xbox One, which for known reasons did not sell as well as expected, so they changed their concept in the meantime: they released the games for PC at the same time as the console version.

Then came the Series consoles, with which a lot of exclusive games were announced again, but because they couldn't release them in time, or the few that were released, they became divisive among players. So MS changing the concept again: now, not only releasing games for PC too, but they're making Xbox a PC.
 
Then came the Series consoles, with which a lot of exclusive games were announced again
Again this didn't happen, MS committed to simultaneous PC releases with all first party xbox games starting around the end of the Xbox One generation. The Series consoles were never going to get any exclusives, this was the design from the start.


Started way back in 2016.
 
I'd go as far as saying that they could create a DOSBox store -many people, me included, download the entire library of MSDOS games, which are available somewhere- to play the entire MSDOS catalog on consoles -locked one and hybrid OEMS-.

They could sell the games there at a very fair price and give some money to the developers if their company still exists, if not, sell abandonware games at a very low price. Sure people could have the same for free, but lots of people don't want the hassle, if you automate the process or just let people set the most important options, like resolution of the window, etc, it could be a good option.

They could also create a PCSX2 store. Same simplicity, settings automatically optimised for each title, where Sony could get some money from each "rom", at a very reduced price, and a little fee to PCSX2 developers.

The same for MAME for arcade games, etc etc.

Good luck with spending shitloads of money clearing all the rights for what will most probably be very small returns. Most (NOT ALL!) games that have a market have been ported, and the people that care the most have probably already gone the piracy emulation route.
 
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