XBox 360 Price Cut/60GB model*

[zed]

Take a look at the sales spikes for the Xbox and PS2 when they hit the $199 market and then the $149 market..
realized that the base model was meant to win the race to $199 ...

the wii priced at $250 has sold what? ~30million + still going strong, im guessing it will sell greater than 50million before a pricecut happens
now heres my impossibly crazy(according to some ppl here) prediction.
once the wii hits <$200 its average monthly sold (over say the first year) will actually be lower than it has averaged before the pricecut.

ala price is less important than desirability

 

[eastmen]

$200 is a big deal. Alot of my friends who are ps3 owners will jump in at that price point . They can buy 20 gig hardrives off us for cheap. Gamestop gives only $15 bucks for the 20 gig drive btw . I'm sure there will be alot of power users upgrading to hte 120 gig or 60 gig drives in the near future leaving alot of 20 gigs on the market

the wii priced at $250 has sold what? ~30million + still going strong, im guessing it will sell greater than 50million before a pricecut happens
now heres my impossibly crazy(according to some ppl here) prediction.
once the wii hits <$200 its average monthly sold (over say the first year) will actually be lower than it has averaged before the pricecut.

ala price is less important than desirability

the wii also comes with a game that is very popular. i wonder how the arcade unit with halo 3 would sell at $250 . of course at $200 it will sell better . Provided nintendo could provide more units than they could sell at any price point for any given month i'm sure you would see higher sales at $200 than $250

 

[eastmen]

Is the arcade unit the RROD immune edition?

There is a thread at gaf checking the failure rates of each of the revisions and type of units . All falcon based units seem to be under the 10% number for xbox 360 owners there. Your more than welcome to go check it out. It seems to me that you have an equal chance of receiving a bad unit that will die on you no matter what system you buy now. However apparently in August jasper units will start leaving the factory , so by the holiday rrod should be well under the 5% margin.

I own a launch unit 20 gig and a brand new 60 gig unit. I can say that my 60 gig runs much much cooler than my old launch unit. I'm actually looking at buying a cheap temp gun to measure the heat output of different things. If you guys have any suggestions for one under $30 I would be thankful .

 

[22psi]

how much wattage does ur 60gb use?

is the powerbrick smaller?

 

[eastmen]

how much wattage does ur 60gb use?

is the powerbrick smaller?

Compared to what? Its a 175w on the brick. I don't know how much it draws. I don't have any tools to tell that. If you give me a link to a cheap device for that I will buy it and test it for you. The power brick is smaller and lighter than my launch unit.

 

[-tkf-]

Compared to what? Its a 175w on the brick. I don't know how much it draws. I don't have any tools to tell that. If you give me a link to a cheap device for that I will buy it and test it for you. The power brick is smaller and lighter than my launch unit.

Maybe checking the power brick is the easiest way to make sure you get a cool running version. Thanks.

 

[AlNom]

If you give me a link to a cheap device for that I will buy it and test it for you.

Killawatt products are somewhat common for measuring power draw. Here's one product: http://www.amazon.com/P3-International-P4400-Electricity-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU. You should be able to find something similar at any electronics shop. As you can see in one of the photos, it sits between the wall socket and the electrical device (360 in this case).

At the very least, you should measure power consumption while in the dashboard (idle) and in-game (load). You may also want to check a DVD movie or some miscellaneous media file. The important thing is to be consistent with the game/movie i.e. check for a peak power draw during a particular segment of replay in Halo 3 or Forza 2.

 

[Arwin]

And start testing from the same temperature - i.e. let them both be off for 24 hours before starting, or on the opposite end, let them both idle in the desktop for an hour.

 

[eastmen]

Maybe checking the power brick is the easiest way to make sure you get a cool running version. Thanks.

I'd look for the newest manfucature date at this point. Mine is a 6/19/08 console. Considering I bought it at retail last week I don't think you can get much newer now. The elites may still have older zelphar (sp?) boards though.


Everyone else thanks for the information. I will look into local shops near me that might have the stuff and I will try and test this week.

 

[AzBat]

More $199 Arcade proof...

http://www.xbox-scene.com/

Tommy McClain

 

[AlNom]

Mod Note: -tkf-, Rancid: Let's stick to the topic. It shouldn't be difficult!

 

[Rangers]

More $199 Arcade proof...

http://www.xbox-scene.com/

Tommy McClain

Apparantly fake. If you read the Xbox scene thread about it, it's simply a store level editable screen that somebody can input any price in, basically.

 

[22psi]

http://www.geek.com/xbox-360-60gb-is-in-house-20080806/

some more tidbits

 

[DrJay24]

some more tidbits

Not really. Some pictures of the box and zero information other than rumor.

The word is that the 60GB units should have the newest chipsets and motherboards which means cooler operation and slower fan speeds, but we have yet to look into exactly what we have (Falcon, Jasper, etc.).

The guy hasn't even plugged it in...

 

[AzBat]

Apparantly fake. If you read the Xbox scene thread about it, it's simply a store level editable screen that somebody can input any price in, basically.

How does one even think that doing something like that is cool? Never amazes how low some people go just get their rocks off. Bleh.

Tommy McClain

 

[Zassk]

How many is that? Sure sales will pick up, but most sales will be of the 60GB as has been the case for three years. The core is already the cheapest HD console on the market and cheaper than the Wii in Europe (I think), does that mean it's selling well?

We don't have enough information to say whether the arcade specifically is selling well in Europe. All we have is some indirect information that overall 360 sales are up in Europe year-over-year.

 

[joker454]

Looks like the cuts are starting to kick in, just ordered me a second 360:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...4&cs=19&c=us&l=en&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643

$299 for an 120gb 360 Elite with two games and two faceplates is a pretty good deal, and with free shipping to boot.

 

[obonicus]

Is that the price-cut kicking in or just a really really good deal? Is there a confirmed price cut, or have all in-store catalog photos been manipulated?

 

[DrJay24]

I'd expect those Elite orders to be canceled, that's a $150 loss for Dell...

Price is already back to $449, I suspect someone changed the 120GB to $299 instead of the 20GB.

 

[joker454]

I'd expect those Elite orders to be canceled, that's a $150 loss for Dell...

Price is already back to $449, I suspect someone changed the 120GB to $299 instead of the 20GB.

I got an order confirmation email from them, they haven't canceled it yet. Maybe I got lucky