Xbox 2 ATI East - R500 by ATI West, so GCN2/N5 GPU is what?

Well Megadrive, you gotta remember this is a fixed plattform, it WILL get old. In fact, GF4 was released shortly after the Xbox was, but that didn´t stop its titles to look good, did it?

If you ask me, I´d say everyone should forget about Xbox2 having a R6xx, it just isn´t feasible.

 

XNA

 

yes:

(source: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1220430,00.asp )

 

isn't one of those team the ex-artx people which worked on flipper ? (and some of them worked on N64 GPU as well)

it sounds reasonable that the same people work work on next nintendo GPU.

 

Xbox / Nintendo Architecture.

 

Right now it looks like Sony will launch the PS3 in 2006 or 2007. A 2005 launch while still possible, probably isn't going to happen, so Microsoft has to adjust their strategy from a possible 2005 head-to-head launch with a .90nm basterized R500 VPU to something more updated. Maybe I misunderstood the term "floating design" for the X-Box 2 contract. To me it seems Microsoft has the flexability to choose several different cores depending on the time frame they need to launch.

With 2005 out of the picture Microsoft can go with what ATI has in the pipeline for 2006. If a team-up of Microsoft and Nintendo is in the works, I could see ATI devoting a very large amount of engineers to make sure the Microsoft/Nintendo platform gets the best world class VPU ATI can design for a .65nm node. The potential payoff for ATI could be huge if ATI gets a royalty for ever game sold on the platform. From what I understand ATI does get a royalty for ever game sold on the GameCube.

I wouldn't fault ATI for sacrificing a product cycle for the PC, in exchange for making the best part it can to help Microsoft/Nintendo have a platform that becomes the market leader by beating Sony. If the game console market gets a reversal of fortune and Microsoft/Nintendo dethrone Sony and get a 75% market share, ATI and its investors would be laughing all the way to the bank.

 

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Xbox Next is launching in Xmas 2005 regardless of SCEI's schedule. MS has no love for the current high-cost Xbox and would like to see it replaced with the simplier machine ASAP.

Feb 2004 : Xbox dev kit distributed.
Mar 2004 : XNA announced. IBM discusses XCPU2 and CELL.
Summer 2004 : Xbox Next officially unveiled.
May 2005 : Xbox Next Hype in full swing
Xmax 2005 : Xbox Next launched.

 

I don't believe its going to have an r420 a r500 or an r600. I think its going to have something between the r500 and r600. Not all of the r600 tech but most of it but also not clocked as low as the r500

 

ATI gets a royalty on each GameCube console sold, but as far as software goes it has been reported that the (modest) royalties apply only to first-party titles.

 

hmmm .... you may be correct .......

 

It is what they did with the Geforce3

 

It will be more than just a speed bump of the r500. It will have alot of tech from the r600 and I'm figureing even if the ram speeds end up being that of the r500 or its refresh the core will be clocked much higher as i think its going to need to worry more about being shader limited than bandwidth limited

 

well they might be doing the back end design on the chip.

Who knows there is a ton we don't know mabye even less than we know of the ps3

 

There was a discussion in another forum about a possibility for a 2 GPU configuration on Xbox2...

would this by a "solution" or will it add to much cost?

 

...and ment is meant to be meant.