Revolution's graphics subsystem: 2 sep cores - ATI AMR ?

[Megadrive1988]

I just hope Revolution doesnt turn into another
Project Reality ---> Ultra 64 ---> Nintendo 64

I want Gamecube 2 with a few 'revolutionary' features.

 

[Brimstone]

Waverace with a PPU caluating the physics of the water (waves and such) is going to be awesome. The revolution sounds incredible.

 

[Pozer]

I can believe those specs (if its launching in fall of 2007 )

also a dual GPU, quad CPU, a ppu, 16 Edram......... That thing is gonna be HUGE!!!!!! and hot!

 

[blakjedi]

This doesnt sound unrealistic to me... I expected something like this truthfully... MVP doesnt sound unreasonable or unlikely... quad core CPU is a stretch... PPU means ATI is shopping the tech...

nothing unreasonable here... to me but then again EVERYTHING but the CELL is Pure speculation anyway...

 

[V3]

As much as I want that kinda of spec, this is Nintendo, their last two consoles have been efficient in term of chip count, and all of a sudden Revolution is going to have a seperate sound chip ?

 

[GwymWeepa]

As much as I want that kinda of spec, this is Nintendo, their last two consoles have been efficient in term of chip count, and all of a sudden Revolution is going to have a seperate sound chip ?

Yeah lol, that's the least plausible part of the rumor.

 

[Fox5]

As much as I want that kinda of spec, this is Nintendo, their last two consoles have been efficient in term of chip count, and all of a sudden Revolution is going to have a seperate sound chip ?

I could see a seperate sound chip, but not with the rest of those system specs. The SNES had a lot of chips, I think it's only been the gameboys and nintendo's last two consoles that have been low in chip count.
I think revolution will be a cache loaded system(1 core cpu with lots of cache, lots of graphics chip cache, and maybe even a small amount of cache on a sound chip) based on little more than that gamecube was once rumored to be that.

 

[Pozer]

I dunno, thats sounds like its gonna be huge and have lots of heat. Im sure its technically possible. I have the first leaked images right here though, so I guess it's true.

 

[Cobra101]

And I reckon Nintendo will be selling this puppy for $199 and make money to boot.


Its funny how Nintendo can pack a ton in their machine and no one second guesses the price while everyone and their grandmother is predicting the PS3 to be $499 or more.

 

[Teasy]

I think revolution will be a cache loaded system(1 core cpu with lots of cache, lots of graphics chip cache, and maybe even a small amount of cache on a sound chip)

There is absolutely no way that Revolution will release with one single core CPU.. When has a Nintendo consoles been underpowered when releasing last? Never mind as extremely underpowered as your suggesting. I can see a dual core 3.5Ghz+ CPU with lots of cache perhaps.

 

[jvd]

Teasy dual core with a ppu would most likely put it close to the cpu power of the xenon and ps3

 

[Johnny_Physics]

There’s also a seperate processor for sound, which is quite advanced

Oh this is sooo fake, Nintendo would never add a thing like that!

 

[PC-Engine]

What's so strange about a more advanced soundchip? The GCN couldn't do realtime DICE so it's perfectly logical that Revolution will have a more advanced soundchip or sound block.

Oh btw the GCN was sold for $200 yet it's quite powerful.

As for the specs. A quad core is certainly possible if the cores are small like the G3 for backwards compatibility.

I can also see a separate smaller PPU to relieve the cpu from heavy physics etc.

The dual GPUs sound interesting. If true they might be smaller and/or lower clocked RN520s.

I can see this being sold for $300.

Let's not forget the holographic storage technology and the VR. What other wishful dreams do we want in it? Honestly, 4 cores, a PPU, TWO GPU's and a seperate sound chip is a heaping load of bs. But who knows, maybe Nintendo is desperate, but I doubt it. I think they are relying on the "revolutionary" aspect to the revolution to differentiate the product so that they DO NOT have to produce such specs to compete.

Nintendo has repeatedly said that just because they need something revolutionary instead of just higher specs doesn't mean it will be underpowered.

 

[McFly]

I can see this being sold for $300.

Then I can see an Apple quad G5 being sold for $200 ... yeah, if only.

Fredi

 

[PC-Engine]

I can see this being sold for $300.

Then I can see an Apple quad G5 being sold for $200 ... yeah, if only.

Fredi

That didn't cost $200 either but for some unexplained reason the GCN did.

 

[DuckThor Evil]

Then I can see an Apple quad G5 being sold for $200 ... yeah, if only.
Fredi

If Xbox 360 base model will cost 299$ and even less when Revolution arrives, I'm sure Nintendo will match their prize with that, certainly they can't ask 100$ more or something like that. Let's not forget that Money is mostly made by selling games, and prizing yourself out of the game is not going to help there.

 

[McFly]

And btw, the G5 was co-developed with Apple, so they will not be called G5 in the Revolution, so much is for sure if Nintendo don't want to pay licenses to Apple as well, they would not even call it G5 based or something like that.

Fredi

 

[Deadly Towers]

Look at it this way - in 3 years xbox 360 will be cheap to manufacture, but the rumored design for Revolution has so many chips it would still be expensive even at the end of it's life.

 

[PC-Engine]

And btw, the G5 was co-developed with Apple, so they will not be called G5 in the Revolution, so much is for sure if Nintendo don't want to pay licenses to Apple as well, they would not even call it G5 based or something like that.

Fredi

Well of course they won't call it G5 just like Gekko isn't called G3. It's already announced that it will be called Broadway anyway.

Look at it this way - in 3 years xbox 360 will be cheap to manufacture, but the rumored design for Revolution has so many chips it would still be expensive even at the end of it's life.

That's true, but there are ways to minimize that like using smaller chips to begin with. For example the PPU could be a smaller chip and the GPUs could be smaller too. As a matter of fact the GPUs could be designed so that both could be manufatured on a single die in the future without having to have to redesign it at a later date.

 

[jvd]

If its true and the gpus in the rev are only the size of the r420 core then i would think by 65nm they could both fit on a die and get good yields .

Dunno if that rumor is true