Windows tablets
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Well that sucks. Why would manufacturers produce tablets at all with the Z-60 if it is just that much worse? Considerably cheaper to implement?
I currently have a W500 at work I'm testing on Win8 and whilst it is definitely faster than when it had W7, I find the C-50 just too slow for everything I want to use it for.
The only z-60 tablet i've heard of is the one posted in this thread. I'm assuming they are getting very good deals on them , mabye they can under cut the atom tablets. mean the z-60 will be in most cases a faster chip for tablets but its going to achieve that with a much shorter battery life or will need a larger battery.
I'd think an i3 ivybridge would performance much better cpu wise and most likely better game wise while not far behind in power . The i5s will be even further ahead cpu wise and be much faster in gaming.
There was a trinity tablet shown at one of the conventions , it was posted earlier in the thread but i haven't seen anything since and it was made by an ODM so who knows.
Who really knows whats going on with amd , if they had their act together they could have had a chance , but no real tablet line up at windows 8 launch is a huge mistake.
I'd think an i3 ivybridge would performance much better cpu wise and most likely better game wise while not far behind in power . The i5s will be even further ahead cpu wise and be much faster in gaming.
There was a trinity tablet shown at one of the conventions , it was posted earlier in the thread but i haven't seen anything since and it was made by an ODM so who knows.
Who really knows whats going on with amd , if they had their act together they could have had a chance , but no real tablet line up at windows 8 launch is a huge mistake.
AMD always end up late to the party, even if it's their party (e.g. Fusion).
They are going up against 22nm Intel processors and 28nm Android tablets with ... 40nm Bobcat, like almost 2 years ago. Meanwhile they can't sell Llano or Bulldozer and the company is focused on Piledriver.
Trinity aside, it's like AMD are constantly targeting the wrong segments of the market with their processors. A fast dual core tablet processor would be like golddust, but AMD are stuck with dual core Brazos on 40nm, a quad core Jaguar on 28nm which isn't actually here and an 8 core monster chip which sucks for consumer workloads. Even a 28nm shrink of the ancient Brazos would give them a chance to do something in the Windows 8 market, but as things stand they're nowhere to be seen.
They are going up against 22nm Intel processors and 28nm Android tablets with ... 40nm Bobcat, like almost 2 years ago. Meanwhile they can't sell Llano or Bulldozer and the company is focused on Piledriver.
Trinity aside, it's like AMD are constantly targeting the wrong segments of the market with their processors. A fast dual core tablet processor would be like golddust, but AMD are stuck with dual core Brazos on 40nm, a quad core Jaguar on 28nm which isn't actually here and an 8 core monster chip which sucks for consumer workloads. Even a 28nm shrink of the ancient Brazos would give them a chance to do something in the Windows 8 market, but as things stand they're nowhere to be seen.
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Agreed. There's a clear lack of execution and direction over at AMD that is also proven by the amount of managers/chief engineers that are jumping ship month after month.
The fact that they couldn't find a CEO for half a year also shows some signs that there's something really wrong with the company's upper management circles.
And now, a dual--core 40nm Brazos @ 1.5GHz for 2013 (isn't this like the third rehash of the January 2011 chips?) that offers weaker battery life than last year's Atoms isn't even going to survive ValleyView in the GPU front.
Apart from the products being released by the former ATI, AMD hasn't released a truly successful product in too many years.. For now there's a 15% reduction in staff, let's see what follows.
(is this topic alive?)
Trials Evolution developer (Redlynx) behind three games on Horizon 27" PC tablet
Redlynx to create three games exclusively for the IdeaCentre Horizon Table PC, a 27-inch widescreen all-in-one desktop machine. Games will exclusively come pre-loaded on the table. The family friendly games — DrawRace2: Racing Evolved (multi-touch, multi-user racing game), King of Opera (a social game) and Raiding Company (a dual-stick shooter).
Trials Evolution developer (Redlynx) behind three games on Horizon 27" PC tablet
Redlynx to create three games exclusively for the IdeaCentre Horizon Table PC, a 27-inch widescreen all-in-one desktop machine. Games will exclusively come pre-loaded on the table. The family friendly games — DrawRace2: Racing Evolved (multi-touch, multi-user racing game), King of Opera (a social game) and Raiding Company (a dual-stick shooter).
Gizmodo seems to really like Razer's win8 tablet: ---> http://gizmodo.com/5974243/razer-ed...g-might-actually-be-the-best-windows-8-tablet
The reviewer says it's actually good enough to replace regular PCs.
The reviewer says it's actually good enough to replace regular PCs.
Silent_Buddha
Legend
Here's one that will be interesting...
From the Anandtech article discussing Intel's SDP...
That should make it ~1.6-1.7 pounds. Not quite Atom based tablet or iPad weight, but getting pretty close which will be quite impressive.
I'm going to guess that part of the weight savings will be a smaller battery, so probably looking at similar battery numbers to what the W700 gets. If this comes with a good keyboard dock instead of the wonky thing the W700 comes with, I may actually consider it.
Regards,
SB
From the Anandtech article discussing Intel's SDP...
That should make it ~1.6-1.7 pounds. Not quite Atom based tablet or iPad weight, but getting pretty close which will be quite impressive.
I'm going to guess that part of the weight savings will be a smaller battery, so probably looking at similar battery numbers to what the W700 gets. If this comes with a good keyboard dock instead of the wonky thing the W700 comes with, I may actually consider it.
Regards,
SB
Well out of all the models that are either released or in the works, I think the only one that really draws my attention for features is the Kupa X15. Unfortunately I don't believe it will be out until at least March and I've got a company credit card burning a hole in my wallet.
Silent_Buddha
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Yeah, I know the feeling. I'm having a hard time trying to decide when to pull the trigger on a Core based tablet. I'd like to wait until at least Haswell, but if 7W SDP IVB slates have good battery life and weight and a good keyboard dock then I may get one then. And then upgrade when Broadwell comes around.
But it's tough. While Win8 has done wonders for my first gen Atom based slate, it doesn't help much with actual productivity software.
They other drawback is that the Kupa X15 is going to be a tad on the expensive side. Their previous Win7 based Kupa slate was more expensive than the competition as well due to its business focused nature.
Regards,
SB
But it's tough. While Win8 has done wonders for my first gen Atom based slate, it doesn't help much with actual productivity software.
They other drawback is that the Kupa X15 is going to be a tad on the expensive side. Their previous Win7 based Kupa slate was more expensive than the competition as well due to its business focused nature.
Regards,
SB
Not that I expect something like that to be commercially available all that soon, but probably good enough for some of you boys to drool over:
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...ertablets-cometh-panasonic-leads-the-way.aspx
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...ertablets-cometh-panasonic-leads-the-way.aspx
Silent_Buddha
Legend
Yes, but imagine pulling that out on an airplane. 
Commenting on someone's iPad
"That's not a tablet."
Pulls out this monster.
"THAT'S a tablet."
Shamelessly stolen and altered from one of my favorite 80's movies.
Regards,
SB
Commenting on someone's iPad
"That's not a tablet."
Pulls out this monster.
"THAT'S a tablet."
Shamelessly stolen and altered from one of my favorite 80's movies.
Regards,
SB
Silent_Buddha
Legend
One thing I find interesting. The better made Cloverfield based Win8 tablets are all selling out as quickly as they can be manufactured and shipped.
The HP Envy x2 has a 2.5 week wait before ship. That's down a bit from the 3-4 weeks it was at when I first looked at them (a month after availability)
The Asus TF810c continues to have low availability. This is my current favorite due to the LCD panel used. Although software support from Asus seems to be a bit lacking.
The ones that have questionable quality and design decisions are the only ones with decent availability.
Acer W510 - crappy keyboard dock no pen.
Samsung ATIV Smart - crappy keyboard dock (no battery so unbalanced when docked) as well as a crappy digitizer pen (no erase nub).
Lenovo might have some good ones but again questionable design choices.
Idea Tab k3011 has no digitizing pen. And keyboard dock while it has a battery isn't available as far as I can see. Plus it has a ship date of more than 4 weeks, although on the plus side it has a web discount of ~130 USD at the moment if purchased direct making it significantly cheaper than the Asus or HP alternatives.
Thinkpad Tablet 2 has a digitizing pen, but no battery in the keyboard dock. And has a ship date of about 3.5 weeks.
So, while the WinRT slates don't seem to have caught on (too expensive for what you get, IMO). A well built Win8 Cloverfield slate seems to be quite popular. Unless supplies are just so dismal that people can't buy one. I have a hard time thinking supply is THAT bad.
Regards,
SB
The HP Envy x2 has a 2.5 week wait before ship. That's down a bit from the 3-4 weeks it was at when I first looked at them (a month after availability)
The Asus TF810c continues to have low availability. This is my current favorite due to the LCD panel used. Although software support from Asus seems to be a bit lacking.
The ones that have questionable quality and design decisions are the only ones with decent availability.
Acer W510 - crappy keyboard dock no pen.
Samsung ATIV Smart - crappy keyboard dock (no battery so unbalanced when docked) as well as a crappy digitizer pen (no erase nub).
Lenovo might have some good ones but again questionable design choices.
Idea Tab k3011 has no digitizing pen. And keyboard dock while it has a battery isn't available as far as I can see. Plus it has a ship date of more than 4 weeks, although on the plus side it has a web discount of ~130 USD at the moment if purchased direct making it significantly cheaper than the Asus or HP alternatives.
Thinkpad Tablet 2 has a digitizing pen, but no battery in the keyboard dock. And has a ship date of about 3.5 weeks.
So, while the WinRT slates don't seem to have caught on (too expensive for what you get, IMO). A well built Win8 Cloverfield slate seems to be quite popular. Unless supplies are just so dismal that people can't buy one. I have a hard time thinking supply is THAT bad.
Regards,
SB
The w510 is not a bad tablet esp if you can get it on sale with the dock. Yes the dock isn't the best but then again a lot of these tablets don't have great docks.
The envy x2 is what i'd set my eye on if I wanted an atom one. Its really good and worth the wait, I got to play with it for a few days at work.
The envy x2 is what i'd set my eye on if I wanted an atom one. Its really good and worth the wait, I got to play with it for a few days at work.
