Will Warner support Blu-ray?

[drpepper]

so BR is launching in spring now? If so I would think that somewhat seals the deal for HD-DVD.

We have a confirmed spring launch for the US?

According to blu-ray.com faq.

1.11 When will I be able to buy Blu-ray Disc products?

The only place where you can currently buy Blu-ray Disc products is in Japan, where they already sell Blu-ray Disc recorders for recording HDTV. If you live in the US then you will most likely have to wait until the Blu-ray launch sometime in early 2006. While we've heard very little about the launch plans for the European market, we expect it to follow shortly after the US (a few products might launch earlier).

 

[drpepper]

HD DVD is launching in Japan in December this year and other countries early next year.



Fixed.



Fixed.

Your use of FUD is astounding! Bravo! You've definitely one uped me.

 

[PC-Engine]

Your use of FUD is astounding! Bravo! You've definitely one uped me.

Those were your own words.

 

[drpepper]

Those were your own words.

No... you've edited them, hence are not my intended words...

 

[PC-Engine]

No... you've edited them, hence are not my intended words...

I didn't edit the words since they're the same words...keep spinning...

 

[Carl B]

DrPepper just don't take the flamebait - it's not worth it.

Anyway I think the whole Sony-NEC optical merger is pretty interesting; wonder if after the initial HD-DVD order commitment is fulfilled, Sony will lean on the company to abandon production or if they'll be happy to follow market demand exclusively.

 

[drpepper]

OK, I won't xbdestroya.

Anyway I think the whole Sony-NEC optical merger is pretty interesting; wonder if after the initial HD-DVD order commitment is fulfilled, Sony will lean on the company to abandon production or if they'll be happy to follow market demand exclusively.

You'd they will. I mean Sony has the biggest sway. If you can't beat 'em, join em.

 

[PC-Engine]

DrPepper just don't take the flamebait - it's not worth it.

Anyway I think the whole Sony-NEC optical merger is pretty interesting; wonder if after the initial HD-DVD order commitment is fulfilled, Sony will lean on the company to abandon production or if they'll be happy to follow market demand exclusively.

There is no intial order commitment...

Oh and it's not a merger, it's a joint venture, big difference.

 

[drpepper]

There is no intial order commitment...

From the previous post

The joint venture is committed to producing HD DVD drives that NEC has already received orders for, but thereafter that the new company will decide by itself what drives to make, a Sony spokesman said.

 

[PC-Engine]

From the previous post

There is no initial order commitment. You're taking the ARTICLE too seriously man. Those are not quotes from the company. Orders are taken on a continual basis. If there is equal demand for both formats then the company will make both types. This is common sense.

 

[Carl B]

There is no initial order commitment. You're taking the ARTICLE too seriously man. Those are not quotes from the company. Orders are taken on a continual basis.

Oh well good, maybe there never will be orders to fill then.

Although why a Sony spokesman would be quoted as saying 'initial orders' will be filled if there aren't any is beyond me. But it's best if they just get those lines ready for their exclusive future blu-ray production anyway.

Funny you being the one to talk down on people taking articles too seriously though, considering the vague allusions you've latched onto with regard to iHD and HP.

 

[drpepper]

I'm more interested in that recording chip "one" posted. If there are any surprise upgardes the PS3 should get it's that. Any Tivo like functionality would be awesome. If that's the intended use...

 

[PC-Engine]

Oh well good, maybe there never will be orders to fill then.

Although why a Sony spokesman would be quoted as saying 'initial orders' will be filled if there aren't any is beyond me. But it's best if they just get those lines ready for their exclusive future blu-ray production anyway.

Funny you being the one to talk down on people taking articles too seriously though, considering the vague allusions you've latched onto with regard to iHD and HP.

There are orders, they're just not initial. You think the orders are from one company?

Funny you being the one to talk down on people taking articles too seriously though, considering the vague allusions you've latched onto with regard to iHD and HP.

Yeah it's funny because mine were actual quotes vs the author's interpretation.

 

[Carl B]

There are orders, they're just not initial. You think the orders are from one company?

'Initial' is a reference to time, not number of companies, or scale - simply time. Intitial. Intitial orders. First orders. Of course they're from more than one company. So what is it you're disagreeing with again?

This is your quote:

There is no intial order commitment...

 

[PC-Engine]

'Initial' is a reference to time, not number of companies, or scale - simply time. Intitial. Intitial orders. First orders. Of course they're from more than one company. So what is it you're disagreeing with again?

This is your quote:

Initial order is the first order. If you have many orders then they're not the first order. Company A orders 100K units on Nov 1, company B orders 200K unit on Nov 7, company C orders 150K units on Nov 10. Which order is the initial order? They will fill all orders not just the intial order and if demand for HD DVD is there they will continue to take new orders.

 

[Carl B]

Initial order is the first order. If you have many orders then they're not the first order. Company A orders 100K units on Nov 1, company B orders 200K unit on Nov 7, company C orders 150K units on Nov 10. Which order is the initial order? They will fill all orders not just the intial order.

PC my grammatically challenged friend, the claim was initial orders, not initial order. I would say all orders up to this point qualify as being in the period of 'initial orders.' Especially considering the format has yet to launch, it's all 'initial' pre-production orders in my mind. Certainly the quote from the article itself spells it out plainly enough as being all orders so far taken.

 

[drpepper]

Before this thread is locked or threatened to be locked..

Original post

TOKYO — Sony Corp. and NEC Corp. signed Thursday (Nov. 17) a memorandum of understanding (MOU) that they would establish a joint venture company in the optical disk drive business, aiming to be the top optical disk drive manufacturer in the world. The as yet unnamed company is due to start operations with the financial year on April 1 next year.

The joint venture will merge Sony's present optical disk business including CD and DVD, which is worth about 150 billion yen (about $1.26 billion), and NEC's DVD disk drive business worth about 70 billion yen (about $589 million). Sony is destined to hold a 55 percent stake in the JV and NEC a 45 percent stake. Sony will designate the president while NEC will designate the vice president of the company.

The two companies are already leaders in the next generation of optical disc systems but find themselves in two different camps. Sony leads the Blu-ray Disc group while NEC has been promoting the HD DVD format with Toshiba Corp.

The joint venture is committed to producing HD DVD drives that NEC has already received orders for, but thereafter that the new company will decide by itself what drives to make, a Sony spokesman said.

NEC will continue to support the HD DVD format and the merger is basically to boost present CD and DVD business, said a spokesman of NEC. And the new company will deal with the both formats of next-generation optical disk drives for customers, he said.

Merging advantages of its respective parents, such as Sony's optical pickups and NEC's system-on-chip LSIs, and creating greater economy of scale should allow the joint venture to take aim at the present top optical disk drive supplier, Hitachi LG Data Storage Inc., which has nearly 30 percent of the market by units and annual sales of over $2 billion.

I've provided the entire article for context sake.

Bolding the caption that seem to be in contention for some reason.

The joint venture is committed to producing HD DVD drives that NEC has already received orders for

I think this is the key sentence. When the company starts up NEC will have a bunch of orders from various companies regarding HDDVD prior to the inception of the company. The new venture/merger company will fulfill those orders. When that runs up, they are free to do as they please.

Initial orders refer to the orders already taken by NEC when the new company starts up.

And that's the end of it for me. It's getting old.

 

[jvd]

all this according to sony .

 

[scooby_dooby]

HD DVD is launching in Japan in December this year and other countries early next year.

The 'war' will be won on US soil. What matters is when does HD-DVD hit store shelves and when does BR hit store shelves in the united states.

If HD-DVD has a chance, it will be if it can launch earlier than BR in the states, with a decent movie library, and the HDTV owners jump on board.

If HD-DVD can generate enough initial sales, then media will start to sell, once there's money on the table all the studios (except maybe sony) will jump on board.

But, like I said, if BR is hitting next spring, then HD-DVD may not have much chance. If BR doesn't hit stateside till the end of next-year, then this is still anyone's guess.

It really depends on the HDTV owners in the US, and whether they decide to jump onboard with HD-DVD. The HDTV owners will decide this war no-one else. The primary factor will be price, and movie library(just needs to be adequate, not exhaustive).

 

[PC-Engine]

Initial orders refer to the orders already taken by NEC when the new company starts up.

Yes and the new company doesn't start until April of next year so orders will be taken up until April. After the company begins operation, the company can do whatever it wants, however, this doesn't mean the company will decide to make either HD DVD or BR drives.

NEC will continue to support the HD DVD format and the merger is basically to boost present CD and DVD business, said a spokesman of NEC. And the new company will deal with the both formats of next-generation optical disk drives for customers, he said