iknowall said:
Hum , yes and no, they did not used their own technology , Star wars episode 2 was projected using the same Dcinema format used today, the avica server file sistem plus the barco Dcine Projector.
No, Barco were just one of MANY of the deployed D-cinema solutions. Christie and Digital Projection, Inc also had theater installations for AOTC, and in fact, Christie had a larger marketshare than Barco back then.
At first when the Dcinema started for a short period of time was used the Barco Dp50 ,
it was the first official Dtheater projectorand and it had a resolution of 1.3k, you are probably refering at this
I am referring to all three DCine projectors that licensed the 1280x1024 DMD and DigiPro DMD chips. I hope you realize of course, that they are all three based on TI's prototype reference design.
Like i said the model you are refeng at is the Barco Dp50.
Nope. Clearly, you are unfamiliar with the market and simply search on google for the first hit that satisfies your preconceived notions, since you make the fallacious assumption that only Barco exists. How is the hell do you arrive at the idea that Barco DP50 is the only PJ that showed Attack of the Clones in 2002 from a lame ass press release?
I was in fact referring to the Christie DigiPro and DCP series, which was installed in several theaters in the Bay Area. In fact, if you look at both Christie and Barco websites, you'll see that over 50% of Digital Cinemas worldwide are 1.3K.
Here there is a news about it.
Wow, and that one PR newswire proves that only Barco projectors were in theaters in 2002? Why not try putting "Christie" "Attack of the Clones" into Google you moron.
So here are the spec of the Barco Dp50 :
3 x high resolution S-XGA DLP Cinema™ DMD™ Dark Metal 3 type , 1280x1024 , 1350:1
contrast ratio.
NO it not had a 300:1 contrast ratio it got a 1350 : 1 contrast ratio, see above.
For someone who is supposedly an "expert" on Digital Cinema projectors, you seem to know very little about digital front projection. Like the difference between a darkroom laboratory uncalibrated projector test of On/Off CR vs a installed and calibrated On/Off CR.
Sorry the spec existed , the only difference from today was that the Dp50 was faster replaced with the dp100.
In 2002, there were 3+ mastering formats for digital cinema, and AOTC was mastered in all three.
Was alredy stated that 2k was the standard even if for a short period of time was used the Dp50 with an 1.3k resolution.
Well, for a standard, it's being ignored, because 1/2 of Barco's world installations of D-Cine projectors are 1.3K. Of course, if you understood economics, you'd understand why theaters have reservations about digital theater installations.
I was talking about the cost of the projector alone, 80.000$ is only the cost of the Barco Dp100.
Well, there are insane people at AVSFORUM willing to go that far, however 10,000+ LUMENS projected onto a typical HT screen would most certainly result in retina burns, so it would be unsafe and stupid, without a massive neutral density filter.
If there are people that use projector at the same price range it will match clearly, but
your pj don't absolutly outclass the Barco Dcinema prtojector used in the 2002.
Digital Cinema projectors are expensive because of the market size and type (B2B instead of B2C), as well as the expensive bulbs and lenses. They are not expensive because they are so superior in quality. Lumens are the enemy of quality, and the best projection quality often comes from the dimmer projectors. They also need anamorphic lenses to convert the DMD output up to 2.35 ratios, over long throw distances. This means expensive optics, and an expensive optics interface.
Digital Cinema projectors have to be designed to deal with achieving atleast 12 to 16-foot lumens on huge screens (40'+). HT PJs only need to deal with 8-10ft screens max, under more controlled situations. Most HT PJs today sport better CR and ANSI CR than the best D-Cine projectors.
How many producers do you know ?
How many do you know, Mr Expert? Where to do you work? Who are you? Which films have you worked on? Let's see you resume. Stop trotting out your so-called expertise if you're going to be a coward. Your Hero, Amir on AVSFORUM has made a habit of demanding that people who debate him divulge their identities.
Sony have alredy stated that they will be using only Mpeg2, and i can assure you that they will use the higest bitrate they can get in the dual layer blu ray disc also.
Why would they? What economic sense would it make for Sony to do it? Most movies will fit on one disc, and it will be substantially cheaper to produce an SL disc, and most consumers won't notice the difference. Sony would only be hurting their margins. If they produced DL discs, it would be for much rarer circumstances where it was an absolute neccessity (e.g. ridiculuous amounts of bonus features, like the extended LOTR trilogy discs)
Have you ever heard of something called "superbit version" ?
I own numerous SuperBit DVDs. They are a market failure. Most people aren't willing to go out of their way to buy them, and as a consequence, there aren't many superbit DVDs. So if anything, SuperBit merely provides evidence that you're wrong.
If DL 50Mbps BR discs are as rare as SuperBits, your whole argument is once again, in the toilet. Why not ask Amir what he thinks? You like to selectively quote "experts" as long as they agree with you. On this issue, Amir was thoroughly disagree with you, but I guess, Amir's wrong, and you're right?
