In a recent interview with Gamespy, Iwata of Nintendo calls the next generation Nintendo console "GCNext". At first, I thought nothing of it. But when I remembered Dave Baumann's post that suggested that Microsoft and Nintendo might share the same platform, I wondered if that could possibly be why Iwata called it "GCNext". Microsoft has reserved the "xboxnext.com". DX10 is now known as "DX Next".
Why GCNext?
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Heh, I was actually going to post a sarcastic post in the original interview thread regarding this. But decided against it in the end. I just knew someone would read to much into this eventually.
Why GCNext? Maybe because its the console after GC and its Nintendo's next console... Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one
Why GCNext? Maybe because its the console after GC and its Nintendo's next console... Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one
Hmmm, GC Next... now tha treally is interesting. I think the them sharing a hardware platform would be the best thing possible. What would be even better is if they both had thier own tools for developing on that single platform and you could pick which tools you want to use (MS dev tools or Nintendo's). That would be the best platform to develop for IMO.
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I think Iwata is referring to it as GCNext because it will be back compatable with GCN, and also the primary hardware partners Nintendo has is the same as with GCN.
Squeak said:
Anyway, I *hope* GC2 and nextbox will be compatible, that way I can play Halo 3 without having to buy a fugly microsoft console.
Three things:
1. The out of Silicon Knights is for a reason that we will see in the next month.
2. Wait until X04.
3. Nintendo will have their own machine, with their own exclusive games but the console will be XNA compatible (and is posible that another Nintendo console will be compatible with XNA).
1. The out of Silicon Knights is for a reason that we will see in the next month.
2. Wait until X04.
3. Nintendo will have their own machine, with their own exclusive games but the console will be XNA compatible (and is posible that another Nintendo console will be compatible with XNA).
I'm starting to hope nintendo will join microsoft, they've really failed in their mission to make gamecube a viable platform and to provide enjoyable games besides their 1st party games. At this point they're producing less than sega was with dreamcast and in less genres, and they're dropping 2nd parties and 3rd parties left and right. Nintendo is basically worthless now as a console manufactuer and publisher, all they havel eft is their games and for that they might as well be a 3rd party.
Fox5 said:
In a short timeframe this option is a good one, on a long term scheme ,this can come and bite nintendo's rear.
Fox5 said:
I agree with this (sad) vision of the situation,except for the last statement.
If nintendo is a worthless console manufacturer , so is Microsoft...
Nintendo could make money just fine as a 3rd party developer.
If all nintendo's system is going to be is an outlet for their games and nothing else, it's just a waste of money for the consumers and for nintendo, and they'll just go the way of SNK.(except they make more than just fighting games)
Speaking of SNK, there is a gameboy game called CT: Special Forces 2 that looks a lot like metal slug....is it?
Also, another major blow to Nintendo was that the lead guy at HAL left a while ago. Now, after nintendo lost Gunpei Yokoi, both gameboy and metroid turned out better, but it took metroid about 10 years to come back, and gameboy about 5, nintendo doesn't have that kind of time now. IMO, the only game on gamecube that lives up to the best of the best of the best of the best is super smash bros melee, and if there was a game just as good on nintendo's next system and one other really good game, that'd be enough to own it, but another even slower parade of just really good games wouldn't be enough. I was able to consider my purchase of n64 justified by super mario 64 back when I got it, and I still do today, and the same holds true for gamecube and super smash bros melee. Wish there was something like that to justify my purchases of new video cards and pc hardware, as probably the only PC game I could put in that category would be fallout and maybe halflife(and, begrudgingly, starcraft, but I got so pissed with what's happened to b.net, the loss of civilty and the mass proliferation of mass money maps like zero clutter...ok ok, and quakeworld and subspace.....nah subspace wasn't that good, and quake was no fun single player), both of which will run on sub 200 mhz computers just fine.
Nintendo also kept a fairly steady stream of games on n64 with a few really high points(I felt n64 went out great with conker's bad fur day, it was like the perfect contrast and compliment to mario 64), and nintendo's done an ok job with gamecube, but unless geist or metroid prime 2(though I'm actually hoping pikmin 2 will come through, the first one had so much potential) are really great, then gamecube looks like it's about dead already.
If all nintendo's system is going to be is an outlet for their games and nothing else, it's just a waste of money for the consumers and for nintendo, and they'll just go the way of SNK.(except they make more than just fighting games)
Speaking of SNK, there is a gameboy game called CT: Special Forces 2 that looks a lot like metal slug....is it?
Also, another major blow to Nintendo was that the lead guy at HAL left a while ago. Now, after nintendo lost Gunpei Yokoi, both gameboy and metroid turned out better, but it took metroid about 10 years to come back, and gameboy about 5, nintendo doesn't have that kind of time now. IMO, the only game on gamecube that lives up to the best of the best of the best of the best is super smash bros melee, and if there was a game just as good on nintendo's next system and one other really good game, that'd be enough to own it, but another even slower parade of just really good games wouldn't be enough. I was able to consider my purchase of n64 justified by super mario 64 back when I got it, and I still do today, and the same holds true for gamecube and super smash bros melee. Wish there was something like that to justify my purchases of new video cards and pc hardware, as probably the only PC game I could put in that category would be fallout and maybe halflife(and, begrudgingly, starcraft, but I got so pissed with what's happened to b.net, the loss of civilty and the mass proliferation of mass money maps like zero clutter...ok ok, and quakeworld and subspace.....nah subspace wasn't that good, and quake was no fun single player), both of which will run on sub 200 mhz computers just fine.
Nintendo also kept a fairly steady stream of games on n64 with a few really high points(I felt n64 went out great with conker's bad fur day, it was like the perfect contrast and compliment to mario 64), and nintendo's done an ok job with gamecube, but unless geist or metroid prime 2(though I'm actually hoping pikmin 2 will come through, the first one had so much potential) are really great, then gamecube looks like it's about dead already.
Fox5 said:
It's a game develloped by a french studio LSP (their located in the south of france 8) , IIRC), and yes it's almost a rip-off of Metal slug. The game is very good by the way.
Fox5 said:
The facts you relate here real, i won't deny them, what i 'll discuss is the "solution" , because i sincerely don't know what might happen to Nintendo if they go third party, your example with Snk is not really reassuring, because the size of Snk is definitely not comparable with Nintendo's size. Snk has always been on a niche , the arcade, specialy the fighters, Nintendo has a broader audience, so case are really differents;
This and also the BiG Factor against the "Third party solution" is the fact that the "attach rate" of the Gamecube is quite big (~6 games/Gamecube) and Nintendo do not sale a lot of bundles (or w/ only one game) so there a lot of money to do on royalties, this can't be easily forgotten.
Here's something also to consider. When ATI got the contract to design the Xbox2 vpu, TheInquirer wrote an article about it. But at the end of the article they added that ATI severed ties with Nintendo. Then of course, there's Dave Baumann's claim that ATI is concentrating soley on the Xbox2 vpu. Dave B. is going to interview ATI's Dave Orton. I hope he asks whether or not ATI is still continuing the development of the N5 vpu.
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11039
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11039
I think it would be in Microsost's best interest to look up into meeting with Nintendo for some sort of tie in with their next generation system. The only way I see Nintendo and Microsoft teaming up is if Nintendo's name is on the Xbox2 somewhere and that Nintendo is the sole provider of the machine in Japan. But this is still a terrible idea that I don't care to see happen.
One solution for Nintendo is to fight back in an agressive way that hasn't been seen by the company since the N64 days. They've become a passive company who is slowly losing marketshare, it is time to grow a set of balls and at least try to take back marketshare. They may still be turning a profit with their current methods but it's only a matter of time before those profits continue to shrink and turn into a loss. Nintendo's best bet is to come out with a console that is on par graphics and power wise with the competition and try to lure 3rd parties back in. They need the hype from their 1st party software such as a Zelda that gets back to the serious side, a really big epic tale that sends the gaming media into riots. They also need a Mario game that is worth playing and hype that up too. Nintendo needs to start talking about its plans and start hyping its next machine. It needs to compete agressively and it needs to take a well calculated risk in trying to compete for the console of choice in the home.
Also, I think a Gamecube Advanced would be a nice name for the successor to GCN.
One solution for Nintendo is to fight back in an agressive way that hasn't been seen by the company since the N64 days. They've become a passive company who is slowly losing marketshare, it is time to grow a set of balls and at least try to take back marketshare. They may still be turning a profit with their current methods but it's only a matter of time before those profits continue to shrink and turn into a loss. Nintendo's best bet is to come out with a console that is on par graphics and power wise with the competition and try to lure 3rd parties back in. They need the hype from their 1st party software such as a Zelda that gets back to the serious side, a really big epic tale that sends the gaming media into riots. They also need a Mario game that is worth playing and hype that up too. Nintendo needs to start talking about its plans and start hyping its next machine. It needs to compete agressively and it needs to take a well calculated risk in trying to compete for the console of choice in the home.
Also, I think a Gamecube Advanced would be a nice name for the successor to GCN.
Gamecube wasn't a cube until you buy the gameboy player.....darn that nintendo, I wanted a cube and they sold me a box and charged me an extra $50 to get a cube!
And is nintendo really in such a good situation? After years of record profits with the n64, they took their first loss ever with gamecube, and they may blame exchange rates, but the nintendo of old would never have even blinked at such a thing. Pretty bad when sega is earning more than you are and you've got 5x as many million sellers.
And is nintendo really in such a good situation? After years of record profits with the n64, they took their first loss ever with gamecube, and they may blame exchange rates, but the nintendo of old would never have even blinked at such a thing. Pretty bad when sega is earning more than you are and you've got 5x as many million sellers.
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