We had little look inside the guts of the Euro PS3 and found some small interesting tid-bits.
http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/151
http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/151
We sez: "A look inside the European PS3"
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DUALDISASTER
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How much money did they save?
inefficient
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Someone should rip apart the BR drive too. That's were potentially big cost savings could have been made.
Gradthrawn
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"One MILLION dollars!"
It looks like the EE/GS they were using was a custom one (based on the info that came out during the initial SW BC announcement). Now they're using another custom solution. I think its going to be pretty hard to estimate the savings. Though the memory might be easier to approximate.
The optical block was already significantly cost-reduced vs. stand alone players... I think any cost savings coming from there will mainly come component costs naturally reducing.
I came to the same conclusion as well when studying the PCB.Stefan Salzl said:
However, it strikes me as a little bit odd if they plan to move the complete RSX to an EDRAM process just for 4 lousy MB of EDRAM used solely for BC. Could there be more to this?
Another observation I made was that some lines from the RSX to some of the video output components have been re-routed via the "new" GS. That is likely just a mean to help reduce the number of layers of the PCB. So if someone counted the layers they would likely find that the number has been reduced.
Rainbow Man
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What might the small-ish square ICs top and bottom on leftmost side on Euro side do?
Actually now that I look closer they seem to be in the exact samw position on US/Japan PS3 also.
And what are those plastic/metallic connector looking things doing that sit top and bottom right side on the PCB? Are the lower metallic one USB ports maybe? If so what is the top plastic one?
Peqace.
Actually now that I look closer they seem to be in the exact samw position on US/Japan PS3 also.
And what are those plastic/metallic connector looking things doing that sit top and bottom right side on the PCB? Are the lower metallic one USB ports maybe? If so what is the top plastic one?
Peqace.
It's the CXM*02*R. As said in the article previously the connection to the EE+GS ran through there in combination with the other chip mentioned. Nothing specific is known / confirmed atm.
Rainbow Man
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So neither f them are the PS2 I/O and sound processors then?
Wyhat might the PS2 GPU connect to RSX through? Maybe the Nvidia SLI bridge conneciton?
Peace.
Wyhat might the PS2 GPU connect to RSX through? Maybe the Nvidia SLI bridge conneciton?
Peace.
My hunch, GS will never be integrated into RSX. It'll be cut off sometimes down the road, when BC is no longer important.
But it really shows the level of planning that went into the design of PS3. Everything seem to be tacked on.
RSX was never a good match for the functions that it needs to perform for PS3. It couldn't even replace GS for BC, requires seperate HDMI chip. They say RSX was design for PS3, yeah right. Its probably the reason why PS3 is $600.
But it really shows the level of planning that went into the design of PS3. Everything seem to be tacked on.
RSX was never a good match for the functions that it needs to perform for PS3. It couldn't even replace GS for BC, requires seperate HDMI chip. They say RSX was design for PS3, yeah right. Its probably the reason why PS3 is $600.
inefficient
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My hunch, both the GS and the HDMI 1.3 transmiter will be on the same die as RSX in an upcoming revision.
Is there HDMI in any graphics chip? And you may not have noticed but the HDMI Chip in the PS3 is a 1.3, so new it was still warm when it was mounted on the motherboard. There is no way in hell it could have been integrated into the RSX chip. So what your saying there just isn´t a valid argument, try something else.
Btw. the PS3 is 500 dollars.
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