Unreal Tournament III Discussion *renamed*
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archangelmorph
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- limited to console spectrum (PC version will be released at same time as PS3)
- time limited (minimum till 1 january 2008, after that depends on when Microsoft and Epic get the mod thing sorted out)
So, what's left to discuss?
I'd imagine these would be for envionments as opposed to characters though right?
You'd have to ask the Sweeney.
dabomb665m
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I've gone obver this in subsequent posts and therefore i'm not going to re-iterate..
If you want to ignore them and refocus on the initial one then thats your problem..
Why do I need to prove anything to you? Like I said if you don't want to take my word for it then thats your own problem.. Your entitled to your own oppinion and frankly I don't care what you believe..
I don't frequent B3D to prove points that I make to people who question them..
If you don't like what i'm saying and you don't want to accept it then thats fine by me..
But don't for a second try to claim that I'm somehow talking shit/my points are any less valid than your own on the subject matter since I could just as well ask you to prove the opposite (which you sure as hell wouldn't be able to..)
Geez I don't get why some people get so arsey when you contend with their oppinion on a subject (regardless of whose the more informed, if at all..)
And for the record i'm not about to break NDA and lose my job just for the sake of an internet arguement.. It's CLEARLY not worth it..
Now maybe we can get back on topic please?
Namely the subject of UT3's exclusivity?
That's the funny thing about some of the people who come in here with so called special privileges... Come in talking all big shot clearly hinting you're in the know, except when called out says its clearly not worth proving since it's not worth losing your job. Great... then perhaps you should change the way you state things if you aren't going to ever go deeper than the surface.
Since you have no intention to prove or care to prove... yet you talk as if you're the one with the higher knowledge... there's no point for me to read any of your "shit" as anything other than that. Yes that is my opinion and as you so eloquently put it, I'm entitled to it... so we'll just keep it at that. Now, exclusivity..
archangelmorph
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Do we know that RSX hasn't got something to help that G70 hasn't?
That would enable defered rendering? No.
But i think this is more the case of directX vs closed box differences
But i think this is more the case of directX vs closed box differences
Tell that to the Killzone Dev's
Who are not using identical deferred rendering techniques obviously. Besides, is Killzone using DX9? :smile:
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dabomb665m
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I sincerely hope you are joking with the DX9 comment...
dabomb665m
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong but if so just correct me... but almighty is mentioning that killzone seems to be using deferred and AA "on a console", which the dev's stated as impossible because of directx10.
The kicker is that UT3 is obviously not using DX anything on the PS3, so really, bringing DX into the reason why consoles can't have deferred and AA is just misleading. The article almost reads: "only DX10 can do deferred rendering and AA, nothing else". We all know deferred rendering and AA is not specific to DX10. I wonder why dev's speak this way... it only fuels some of the ignorance on the gaming boards and makes most of them just impossible to read.
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Bingo. Sorry, it seems I should've been more explicit, I forgot what forum I was in.
I think for all intents and purposes the quote was directed at those with a PC as opposed to anyone else. MSAA and deferred rendering on PC for those with DirectX 10 cards and windows vista. It seemed clear to me that they were NOT referencing consoles whatsoever in the context of the question.
Are you guys even sure that Killzone 2 uses DR + MSAA? Or could they simply be using some kind of edge smoothing like Gears on the 360?
Can any devs comment on whether DR + MSAA is possible/practical on either of the consoles due to the closed box environment?
Can any devs comment on whether DR + MSAA is possible/practical on either of the consoles due to the closed box environment?
archangelmorph
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Check the Tech forum..
There's a long thread on this which answers all your questions..
