The old and unwieldy GTA4 thread*

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bold prediction but i think NA ps3 numbers are gonna be a bit higher than 50%, ild say between 66->80%.
+ also i can see this easily selling 10million first month + 20million for the year

check this out http://www.elspa.com/?c=/items/fastest.jsp

time to sell a million copies in the UK
GRAND THEFT AUTO 3 -- 62weeks
GRAND THEFT AUTO: VICE CITY - 8 weeks
GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS - 3 weeks
GTA4 ???

one thing i love about this title is the companies not hyping it too much compared to other titles, true websites/magazines are doing it for them (cause the level of interest is so high) but still its nice to see
 
zed said:
bold prediction but i think NA ps3 numbers are gonna be a bit higher than 50%, ild say between 66->80%.
+ also i can see this easily selling 10million first month + 20million for the year

check this out http://www.elspa.com/?c=/items/fastest.jsp

time to sell a million copies in the UK
GRAND THEFT AUTO 3 -- 62weeks
GRAND THEFT AUTO: VICE CITY - 8 weeks
GRAND THEFT AUTO: SAN ANDREAS - 3 weeks
GTA4 ???

one thing i love about this title is the companies not hyping it too much compared to other titles, true websites/magazines are doing it for them (cause the level of interest is so high) but still its nice to see
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You're making US sales predictions based on previous UK statistics?
 
I assume his 10m number is worldwide, whereas his tie ratios are pulled out of the air, not based on this data.

Vegas2 apparently sold 2m in its first month, and that's nothing on the scale of GTA, so who knows?
 
bbot said:
Michael Pachter expects the XB360 version of GTA IV to outsell the PS3 version, 2:1

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/16091/Analyst-GTA-IV-for-Xbox-360-to-Outsell-PS3-Version-21/

But on GameTrailers TV Bonus Round he says GTA IV will sell more PS3s than XB360s.

http://www.gametrailers.com/bonusround.php?ep=20&pt=2
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thats two different things, and he explains himself in the GT video.

he expects more people to buy PS3's for GTA4 (meaning he expects GTA4 to move more PS3's), but with the 360 install base being larger, he expects the 360 version to sell more, and i totally agree with him.
 
Here in Belgium shops it seems that the shops expect that the PS3 version wil dominate locally because all the advertisment around GTAIV seems to revolve around the PS3 version.

What I also noticed that even our local bazar has started preorders months ago. En for that shop that is a very² rare occasion. They normally don't do preorders of games. The demand must be very high.
 
djskribbles said:
he expects the 360 version to sell more, and i totally agree with him.
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2:1... yes he expects twice as many sales for 360 in fact ;), helped in part by the exclusive future content.

I also expect that there are a lot of Europeans who have been holding out for a PS3 for this and GT5P similar to how some held out for Halo 3 on Xbox 360.
 
If PS3 sales keep climbing, I'm not sure we'd be able to say it was people waiting until GTA4 was released. I think GTA4 is just one of many factors that's finally making the PS3 a compelling purchase. Now that BluRay has won, the price has come down and a number of good quality titles are out, there's actually a reason to buy it. Whether those people are holding out for specific titles may be questionable, but finally starting to put together a library of good games is definitely a selling point.
 
Tap In said:
2:1... yes he expects twice as many sales for 360 in fact ;), helped in part by the exclusive future content.

I also expect that there are a lot of Europeans who have been holding out for a PS3 for this and GT5P similar to how some held out for Halo 3 on Xbox 360.
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exactly. personally, i think there are far more people waiting to buy a PS3 for GTA4 than there would be for a 360. a large chunk of Xbox fans were probably waiting for Halo 3 more so than GTA4. many PS3 fans are probably waiting for games like GTA4, GT5, MGS4 or FFXIII. the only thing i don't agree with is when he said it will outsell the ps3 version 2:1... i think it will be a little closer than that (assuming he meant worldwide).
 
djskribbles said:
exactly. personally, i think there are far more people waiting to buy a PS3 for GTA4 than there would be for a 360. a large chunk of Xbox fans were probably waiting for Halo 3 more so than GTA4. many PS3 fans are probably waiting for games like GTA4, GT5, MGS4 or FFXIII. the only thing i don't agree with is when he said it will outsell the ps3 version 2:1... i think it will be a little closer than that (assuming he meant worldwide).
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But people have known GTA4 has been coming to the 360 for a long time. If they're interested in GTA and not GT5, MGS4 or FFXIII, they might just as easily have been waiting to buy a 360. I don't think you can lump all of those titles together. I mean, I bought a 360 a couple weeks ago, knowing that GTA4 was out next month and I don't have any interest in those other titles. I'm not really sure you can say that people who have played GTA in the past will want to play it on the PS3, just because it was primarly available on that platform in the past.
 
Scott_Arm said:
But people have known GTA4 has been coming to the 360 for a long time. If they're interested in GTA and not GT5, MGS4 or FFXIII, they might just as easily have been waiting to buy a 360. I don't think you can lump all of those titles together. I mean, I bought a 360 a couple weeks ago, knowing that GTA4 was out next month and I don't have any interest in those other titles. I'm not really sure you can say that people who have played GTA in the past will want to play it on the PS3, just because it was primarly available on that platform in the past.
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Its a pretty big stretch to assume the 100million+ ps2 owners were all diehard sony fans. Even if you narrow that down to the 10+ million ps2 owners I think you're going to see significant platform leakage. Looking at DMC4 sales we can see that its done relatively better to install base on ps3 in NA but I'd say that title is a bit more focussed (much less widespread appeal than the GTA games) and there's no DLC that's 360 only.
 
Wow this is funny:)
“the whores on the 360 version only have red lipstick on 3/4 of their mouths… check it out next time you play, but don’t make it to obvious, we’re hoping to slip that one through certification testing. Brad, the artist that did that, calls it the Red Ring of Herpes!”
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http://sarcasticgamer.com/wp/index.php/2008/04/subtle-ps3-360-gta-iv-differences-revealed.html

+ some differences like PS3 version gets a mini game intro for installing and HDD streaming.
 
It's worth noting that the Australian version has been censored. I'll be cancelling my preorder and waiting to see if it's region free.
 
DJ12 said:
I take it you have a 360 then as all PS3 games are region free.
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Correct. Bully wasn't region free however Table Tennis was. Worst case for me is to order from the UK or NZ *shrug* It is extremely frustrating however given the smut that passes for entertainment on free-to-air TV these days.

God I sound old.
 
PS3 Gets the Better Version?

This was pulled from cgreviews.com via N4G before it was removed for legal reasons (whatever they were). I don't know if they put the review out too early or what. I would be interesting if it's true. Here it is...

The PS3 has a more relaxed color pallet, but this gives everything a more realistic look. If you don't like the realistic look, and you have a HDMI connection, you can fiddle with your PS3 display settings and get it looking much more saturated. The textures are just as sharp as the 360 version, and there's little to no pop-in or screen tearing. The PS3 takes longer to load than the 360, but I took several different head counts in game at different locations, and I always found the PS3 to be more populated than the 360. This could be attributed to the dynamic nature of the world, but it's hard to tell. Either way, the difference was never more than five to seven pedestrians or three to four cars—it's not really much of an advantage.

The 360 is bright. Boy is it bright. Based on discussion history, this one will be claimed to look better, but it'll really be preference. The texture quality is the same on both systems, but the 360 has a more cartoon-like look. This isn't a bad thing. It just depends on preference. I'd compare the difference to that of Oblivion on each system. The 360 also suffers from some frame rate drops that are almost non-existent on the PS3. Installing the 360 version on your system's hard drive, however, will bring performance almost up to par with the PS3.

I know, you want details, but all I can confirm is split-screen on PS3 only. I was alone, so I didn't actually get to have any matches, but I could tell that the split-screen worked really well. There was a significant decrease in the amount of traffic and pedestrians, but it didn't ruin anything. This is understandable. Rendering two instances of Liberty City is a chore for any machine. I can't conclude one way or the other why the split-screen mode was not available on 360, but I assume by the drop in on-screen objects on the PS3 that the 360 just couldn't handle it. If you own a 360, don't worry. You have Xbox Live…so you're set.
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We will just have to wait for more reviews to come in concerning this.
 
I think we will have to wait to find out the truth unless you have some evidence one way or the other.

Can you confirm this is fake or real from a reliable source or are just speaking from what you feel?
 
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