Okay, I'm zipping this thread up as an unwieldy mess. For discussion on the actual game, not the platforms it's running on, feel free to create a new GTA thread, and I'll make sure unwanted talk doesn't pollute it. IMO the comparison talk has been done now and doesn't warrant any further talk; all that's been coming up over the past pages is fanboy warisms. If anyone wants to consider the technical differences between platforms and possible hardware reasons, not that I think that's possible with such tiddly differences, there's a technology forum to post in, but you'd better stay technical and not gripe about who's a fan of what platform they are and how the internet is entirely prejudiced - those aren't topics for any of the Embedded 3D forums.