The Official RV630/RV610 Rumours & Speculation Thread

[flippin_waffles]

I think this is where everything originated.

http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=151589

Translated:

http://tools.search.yahoo.com/langu...coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=151589&lp=zt_en

 

[trinibwoy]

http://hdtvsg.blogspot.com/2007/04/ati-radeon-hd-x2600xt-benchmarks.html

3Dmark06

Radeon HD 2600XT - 5760 marks
GeForce 8600GTS - 5900 marks

3Dmark05

Radeon HD 2600XT - 11652 marks
GeForce 8600GTS - 11500 marks

FEAR (1600x1200)

Radeon HD 2600XT - 29 fps
GeForce 8600GTS - 29 fps

Not sure how those numbers support the claim in the article about 2600XT being much faster.

 

[jamis]

http://hdtvsg.blogspot.com/2007/04/ati-radeon-hd-x2600xt-benchmarks.html


Not sure how those numbers support the claim in the article about 2600XT being much faster.

LOL! Well he tells you to bookmark his site and come back for updates more often.. What's tis site anyway? Level505.II?

 

[trinibwoy]

Well these guys are certainly taking advantage of the lucrative FUD market

 

[CJ]

Hmm, the power is down, but 80W would still require extra power, wouldn't it? Unless the person saying 80W is guesstimating from measurements at the wall or something.

Here's what I've heard:

HD 2600 XT -> 65W
HD 2600 PRO -> 55W
HD 2400 XT -> 20W
HD 2400 PRO -> 18W

So the assumption that the person saying 80W is guesstimating is correct. The HD 2600XT doesn't need an external powerconnector since it only uses 65W at max.

 

[Geeforcer]

Here's what I've heard:

HD 2600 XT -> 65W
HD 2600 PRO -> 55W
HD 2400 XT -> 20W
HD 2400 PRO -> 18W

So the assumption that the person saying 80W is guesstimating is correct. The HD 2600XT doesn't need an external powerconnector since it only uses 65W at max.

65W for the whole card sound like an extremely cool-running card. What's 8600 GTS pulling, 70-90W?

 

[neliz]

NV says 71Watts for the GTS.

 

[Mefisutoferesu]

47 max 21 idle for gts

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce8600gts_7.html

 

[Unknown Soldier]

65W for the whole card sound like an extremely cool-running card.

And the HD2600XT is supposed to have HD sound as well.

Kewl.

US

 

[Arty]

Here's what I've heard:

HD 2600 XT -> 65W
HD 2600 PRO -> 55W
HD 2400 XT -> 20W
HD 2400 PRO -> 18W

So the assumption that the person saying 80W is guesstimating is correct. The HD 2600XT doesn't need an external powerconnector since it only uses 65W at max.

Whats the power consumption of G86? If thats true then AMD got power consumption advantage by going with 65nm.

 

[Pete]

47 max 21 idle for gts

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce8600gts_7.html

The 2D draw relative to RV570 seems inline with TR's #s, but Xbit's P4 testbed shows a much wider 3D spread (~20W) than TR's (~5W). Veird! HW.fr reports NV's official #s as 71W 3D draw, as neliz said. I wonder if pushing a 128bit card to 16x12 4xAA w/HDR is maxing the memory/ROP/texturing subsystem but bottlenecking the rest of the GPU, so not showing true max power draw. (Then again, they're not testing Q4 or FEAR.)

Looking at other #s, TR shows the 7600GT and 7900GS inline relative to the 8600GTS, so maybe it's TR' #s and the X1950P that's the outlier, not Xbit's. Any other sites publish power draws?

 

[Arty]

The 2D draw relative to RV570 seems inline with TR's #s, but Xbit's P4 testbed shows a much wider 3D spread (~20W) than TR's (~5W). Veird! HW.fr reports NV's official #s as 71W 3D draw, as neliz said. I wonder if pushing a 128bit card to 16x12 4xAA w/HDR is maxing the memory/ROP/texturing subsystem but bottlenecking the rest of the GPU, so not showing true max power draw. (Then again, they're not testing Q4 or FEAR.)

Looking at other #s, TR shows the 7600GT and 7900GS inline relative to the 8600GTS, so maybe it's TR' #s and the X1950P that's the outlier, not Xbit's. Any other sites publish power draws?

Another test but "total" power consumption: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600_gts_preview/page18.asp

*edit* more

http://www.hothardware.com/articles/NVIDIA_GeForce_8600_GTS_and_8600_GT/?page=13
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/8600_gts/9.html
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2105&page=4
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=645&page=10
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/486/15/

 

[{Sniping}Waste]

Why does the 8600GTS have a external power plug if the power it need is under 75Watts? This makes not sense to me because the cost in adding the power plug and the surface mounted components. The 8600GTS has to draw more then 75Watts at full load for them to have the external power plug.

 

[trinibwoy]

Probably has something to do with how easily it overclocks. Also 71W doesn't give much margin for error from a 75W source.

 

[vertex_shader]

Here's what I've heard:

HD 2600 XT -> 65W
HD 2600 PRO -> 55W
HD 2400 XT -> 20W
HD 2400 PRO -> 18W

So the assumption that the person saying 80W is guesstimating is correct. The HD 2600XT doesn't need an external powerconnector since it only uses 65W at max.

Looks good :smile:

The sites with the power consuption FUD's Vr-Zone , HKEPC

 

[vertex_shader]

Rv630

Rv630 in Cebit

 

[Sound_Card]

Rv630

Rv630 in Cebit

WHy is one board longer than the other? And why are they blocking the rage theater chip? Or is it the theater chip?

 

[Arnold Beckenbauer]

Small PCB: RV630Pro
Large PCB: RV630XT VIVO (Rage Theater)

Or am I right?

 

[INKster]

And why are they blocking the rage theater chip? Or is it the theater chip?

Perhaps they just want to hide the Crab logo...

 

[Kaotik]

Perhaps they just want to hide the Crab logo...

Huh? If you're referring to the Realtek HDMI driver for ATI blabla thing, it's for motherboards which use ATI chipset with Realtek audio and have HDMI support, not R6xx/RV6xx