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[patsu]

How big was GT5P ? (EDIT: 1.7Gb) This demo is only 200Mb or so.

 

[Neb]

How big was GT5P ? (EDIT: 1.7Gb) This demo is only 200Mb or so.

How many videos, cars, tracks did it include and music tunes?

 

[RobertR1]

I'm sure Winzip is to blame for the enviorments.

 

[patsu]

According to wiki...

Cars

The Japanese release in December 2007 featured 37 stock cars (plus the uncredited GT-R "Black Mask" returning from the free playable demo) from various Japanese, European and American manufacturers including Nissan, Ferrari and Ford.[34]

Spec II update adds new manufacturers, more stock cars and introduces racing cars, tuners and "Tuned" cars. Total number of playable cars reaches 71.[35]

The North American version of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue brought additional stock and tuned cars, increasing the game's car list to 76 credited cars.[10]

Tracks

GT5P introduces the Daytona International Speedway to the franchise.
Four circuits located in Japan, Europe and North America are included in the original game, plus two fictitious tracks: The High Speed Ring and Eiger/Eiger Nordwand. In the absence of suitable roads in the real-life location around Kleine Scheidegg and the Eiger, the game developers created the track based on actual hiking trail.
Each track is available in two different layouts. London, High Speed Ring and Eiger Nordwand are available in the forward and reverse directions. The Fuji International Speedway is available in both "F1" and "GT" variation; the Daytona International Speedway has a Road Course version; and the Suzuka Circuit has a shorter layout known as the East Course.[36]

Each real-life circuit has an HD video "Course Guide" that documents the location with actual footage and commentary text.
Spec II update[10] adds the Gran Turismo franchise's classic High Speed Ring fictitious circuit (available in both forward and reverse version) which brings the total number of tracks to six (twelve different layouts).[37]

I just checked my copy. It's 1.83Gb.

 

[Neb]

Cars

The Japanese release in December 2007 featured 37 stock cars (plus the uncredited GT-R "Black Mask" returning from the free playable demo)...

...The North American version of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue brought additional stock and tuned cars, increasing the game's car list to 76 credited cars...

Tracks

...Four circuits located in Japan, Europe and North America are included in the original game, plus two fictitious tracks...

Each real-life circuit has an HD video "Course Guide"...

Well that pretty much explains the size of GT5P being 1.83GB especially with several HD videos. In contrast to this the GT5 Academy demo download size of 220MB (compressed?) seems normal.

 

[patsu]

...except that 1.83Gb is the old version. After an update, it's now 2.136Gb. Looks like without a breakdown, we can't be sure whether the size will explain the difference. ^_^

On top of GT5 Academy, PD has to add head tracking and damage. The game will likely evolve further. Some are saying GT5 Academy is lower quality than the previous demo build in expos, so may be it is based on a different resource budget. Going to download mine now.


EDIT: Not up in US yet.

 

[djskribbles]

Someone at GAF got an e-mail from Sony emphasizing that this is strictly for the Academy and is not a GT5 demo. PD issued a press release stating that this is strictly for the competition and to showcase the new physics.

http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-time-trial-demo-screenshots-video/

Anyone have any high-res shots of the E3/TGS builds?

 

[Neb]

...except that 1.83Gb is the old version. After an update, it's now 2.136Gb. Looks like without a breakdown, we can't be sure whether the size will explain the difference. ^_^

Ops read it wrong thought JP -> US XD. Though interesting to know if this can equate to videos added. The info in that Wiki article doesn't seem to take into account unpatched/patched versions or is that JP -> US changes (added to JP version)?

top of GT5 Academy, PD has to add head tracking and damage. The game will likely evolve further. Some are saying GT5 Academy is lower quality than the previous demo build in expos, so may be it is based on a different resource budget. Going to download mine now.

Certainly although about demo build in expos, people are basing it on offscreen videos/shots and IIRC some pretty nasty slowdowns where seen in those.

 

[Neb]

Someone at GAF got an e-mail from Sony emphasizing that this is strictly for the Academy and is not a GT5 demo. PD issued a press release stating that this is strictly for the competition and to showcase the new physics.

http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-time-trial-demo-screenshots-video/

Anyone have any high-res shots of the E3/TGS builds?

So the Gtplanet article links to claims from someone at GAF telling this?

I would like to know if Digital Foundry (and other sites) got this letter aswell as they got hands on demo before retail customers. So Sony/PD must have allowed them to get their hands on it before worldwide release. Judging by article it doesn't seem so so probably only one person got this mail?

edit: oh lol, just got an email saying that this is ONLY for the GT Academy and not a demo from GT5 xD it doesn't serve as a preview or review (wow lol, review?) they also say that we should not capture videos from it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18883542&postcount=14828

Why are sites allowed to capture videos and display them on the net like DF or others? Why does it say this when launching the demo ?

 

[nightshade]

I just checked my copy. It's 1.83Gb.

Wth ? IIRC the game took like 5GB of my HDD space after install.
I'm gonna do a recheck.

--------EDIT--------
I re-installed the game & it says 5880MB of disk space in use....and this is without any of the updates

 

[Arwin]

Wth ? IIRC the game took like 5GB of my HDD space after install.
I'm gonna do a recheck.

The opening and ending videos are optional. You don't have to have these installed, and you can also remove them again. They make up for the difference.

 

[nightshade]

Uh what are we talking about here ?
I have the disc version of GT5P & that game just gets installs and takes up 5880MB even without updates, doesnt has any kind of option or whatsoever.

 

[Cornsnake]

If this isn't a demo, then why on earth does it say it's a demo for GT5 when you start it up?

Just like GT5P before it this isn't a track I like. Which again leaves me waiting for the whole game to get to play it the way I like it.

 

[manux]

Wth ? IIRC the game took like 5GB of my HDD space after install.
I'm gonna do a recheck.

--------EDIT--------
I re-installed the game & it says 5880MB of disk space in use....and this is without any of the updates

If you installed it from the disc the installation contains a bunch of movies. If you install the digital version movies are only loaded in demand. Hence the difference in installation size.

 

[patsu]

If this isn't a demo, then why on earth does it say it's a demo for GT5 when you start it up?

Just like GT5P before it this isn't a track I like. Which again leaves me waiting for the whole game to get to play it the way I like it.

It is a demo which also serves the purpose of supporting GT Academy. I think what the marketing people are trying to say is that the demo may not be indicative of the final experience (They seem to only acknowledge the physics part).

I don't know. May be they expect GT5 to be ready by now when they scheduled the competition ? Someone needs to be selected by certain deadline to register in a series of races later. Marketing can be caught by event dates like this. I have no insider info at all.

 

[Arwin]

It is a demo which also serves the purpose of supporting GT Academy. I think what the marketing people are trying to say is that the demo may not be indicative of the final experience (They seem to only acknowledge the physics part).

Well, I have just tried the demo, and I'll say this: it's hard! Pfew. I'm ranking 118 in the Netherlands, and I'm about 7 seconds off the pace still. But that's not too bad. I don't think I could ever hope to get much closer than at 2 seconds off the best time for either track. Competition here is always incredibly fierce.

 

[djskribbles]

Well, I have just tried the demo, and I'll say this: it's hard! Pfew. I'm ranking 118 in the Netherlands, and I'm about 7 seconds off the pace still. But that's not too bad. I don't think I could ever hope to get much closer than at 2 seconds off the best time for either track. Competition here is always incredibly fierce.

Yeah, it seems much easier to spin out now -- you really have to throttle the gas more compared to Prologue. Or maybe it's just the car, I dunno. I can detect my back end kicking out easier though so it seems a little easier to counter steer. But yeah, overall, it seems harder.

Is the record still in the 1'36's? I managed to 1'39.521 but that's probably the best I can do (might be able to shave a few hundredths of a second, but wouldn't make any difference). Mind you, this is after over an hour of playing.

 

[patsu]

Well... they have to select a worthy driver for the real races. They probably make it as close to real world racing as possible.

 

[Lucid_Dreamer]

If this isn't a demo, then why on earth does it say it's a demo for GT5 when you start it up?

I think the point some people are trying to make is as follows: It's a demo of GT5, but not the demo.

 

[(((interference)))]

I think the point some people are trying to make is as follows: It's a demo of GT5, but not the demo.

So when is the real demo coming out?