The Annual E3 Microsoft press conference thread, 2014 edition

I just think a little to much importance is being put on the graphical power of the Xbox One compared to the competition.

I believe Cyan's point was that Microsoft's change in direction, be that relative power or multimedia focus, has caused a slight interest decline compared to previous generations. It hasn't had that effect on everyone, because the system still sells very well.

I can only speak for myself here, but had the direction been consistent with the last two consoles, I'd have an Xbox now and not a PlayStation. That might make me a little shallow, but it remains fact. I fully intended on buying an Xbox until their reveal, afterwards I cancelled my Live account as a demonstration of my disappointment.

Everything since has been positive. If Spence had been in charge from the start, we'd probably have a different scenario to what we have now.

Oh and I will consider buying an Xbox One if a good enough reason were shown. The Halo collection was tempting for me earlier in the week until I realised I have all of those game already on the original Xbox and the 360. I've so far owned all Xboxes and Playstations apart from the third generation of each.
 
And I agree with both of you. When the 360 launched it really was the most capable gaming machine available except for all of the most hardcore gamer PC's, and even then, it wasn't until Intel launched the Core2 series (about year after the 360 launch?) that PC gamers really had a complete system that was easily superior.

The Xbox and the 360 were also both unabashedly American or NA focused. Yep, sports, FPS's and racing games. Sure, they spent an ungodly amount of money trying to get Japanese developers on board for the 360 (and it was really a tremendous waste of resources), to expand their base but they were still primarily NA focused.

The One was launched with that same NA focus (none of the entertainment options really work anywhere else, nobody else can use HDMI well or cares about NFL exclusive content, etc), but the hardware budget was divided between gaming and entertainment.

That's the thing that is most disappointing about this generation, there's no doubt that anybody can buy a medium range gaming PC that is far more capable than the Xb0x or the PS4. That wasn't the case last generation.

And, to top it all off, the attitude is now different as well. Sure, if you can't "beat them" there's no reason to go to war. Let's just call a truce and try to be friends because they've got more tanks than you have.

It is a wise strategic decision, but it's just another indication of how they failed when they designed this console.

They can't fight the "we are better than you" battle, because it is just too obvious that they will lose on that front
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Yup, that was the point for me. Xbox was American and bold, like the presentation of the Xbox One with Bill Gates and the Rock, or the E3 2005 where a girl carried the Xbox 360 on a bag and presented it on stage.

Allard, Bach and of course the great Moore knew how to design it. It was a console with personality, which pleased both hardcore and casual alike, added gamertags, achievements, XNA for indies, all of them standards today.

It was just so good. And games like RDR or Skyrim -which are arguably amongst the best games ever made- had their best version on the X360.

Which is not so good though, as if that wasn't the case PS3 users will love and come to appreciate those games and praise them as they deserved.

Kind of agree with the bolded part -though I do prefer them to not get into battles with Sony or Nintendo-, this generation under nearly almost all circumstances seems perpetually ironic to me... in amusing and sometimes annoying sorts of ways. :???:
 
I believe Cyan's point was that Microsoft's change in direction, be that relative power or multimedia focus, has caused a slight interest decline compared to previous generations. It hasn't had that effect on everyone, because the system still sells very well.

I can only speak for myself here, but had the direction been consistent with the last two consoles, I'd have an Xbox now and not a PlayStation. That might make me a little shallow, but it remains fact. I fully intended on buying an Xbox until their reveal, afterwards I cancelled my Live account as a demonstration of my disappointment.

Everything since has been positive. If Spence had been in charge from the start, we'd probably have a different scenario to what we have now.

Oh and I will consider buying an Xbox One if a good enough reason were shown. The Halo collection was tempting for me earlier in the week until I realised I have all of those game already on the original Xbox and the 360. I've so far owned all Xboxes and Playstations apart from the third generation of each.
I've had a GC for F-Zero, and would have a PS4 for Gran Turismo -though I envied the classic GTs more than the modern ones-, plus my siblings had the PS2 so I could play it, but I am not Nintendo's biggest fan, nor Sony's. To me they always lacked that extra something the Xbox brand has.

What you mention about consistency is the key for me. With Xbox One is like Microsoft was experimenting in predictable, boring ways, as if they watched their kid jab a fork into an electric outlet just to see what happens. :cry:

With a true Xbox console out, the original vision could be more palatable. People would accept it more 'cos they'd be buying an Xbox.

If they treated the matter in a more sensitive way, like having an opt-in option for sharing games with up to 10 people, 24 hours check for DRM, plus the classic way for those not caring about the advantages of that and those without a solid internet connection, they could sell like hotcakes.

Heck can you imagine how many "proper Xbox" consoles these jerks would be selling by now when you see the Xbox One sales, which aren't that bad? :oops:

Being yourself, loyal to you and your philosophy, people will love and hate you for that, and to me that's part of what life is about.

That and better marketing, using American artists to promote the console, those who cause a reaction, like Miley Cyrus...

X360 was just special, and respected/hated for what it was.

I am not the biggest FPS fan, but give me FPSs like Call of Juarez, which was the most fun, addicting and rewarding game when you used your intuition and intelligence....

Another game loved by core and casuals alike, since it had soul.

To be honest, I never cried with laughter more in a game ever in my life! :LOL:Probably never will.

Every casual I know that tried it loved Call of Juarez. :smile2:

Especially one of my brothers, the quintessential casual, got totally addicted to it, but rejected other games -save RDR maybe-.

You could really screw others over by doing the most smart and comment-worthy tricks, and sometimes the laughing never ended when playing Skirmish mode online.

While the hardware is decent, I hoped that this Xbox was like the others, as capable as the most powerful PC at launch and admired/envied by other platforms and PC users alike. To me that's an essential thing Xbox is about. :unsure:-nor the WiiU, nor the PS4 are even close to what I mean by that-.
 
I think Microsoft won the E3 for a change, and this was the best moment of the entire E3 for me.

 
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