The AMD Execution Thread [2018]

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    It was redacted they said to protect the senior sales manager from problems with AMD, not as you mention for being erroneous.
    No-one has yet proved he is a middle-manager; as someone who works with such VPs and sales channels,product development,etc with teams in multiple regions over the years I can say it is highly unlikely the employee is as low as you deem relative to the PR (who made multiple miscommunications in their contact with Forbes).
    How many in-country local sales guys do you know where you work keep an eye out for a sales channel breach in Taiwan/Australia/etc on another continent and then take time to try and resolve it themselves rather than pushing it up the chain?

    You mention speculation, but isnt that exactly what you did as well throughout your post?
    Anyway the recent points from others keep ignoring one important aspect; this is against the backdrop of Scott's quote earlier on about freedom of choice for consumers/retailers and importantly said 'supporting partners' in context of greater flexibility/freedom for partners.
    Currently that statement-marketing strategy looks awkward but only time will tell because all the information is either conflicting or does not line up, so now we need to see what happens 3-6 months down the line.

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    Also I do not think some appreciate just how big some of those benefits are with regards to which tier a partner sits in; which includes logistics-parts available and IHV manufacturer scheduling,financial and market incentives.
    Considering how restrictive the sales agreement seems to be for ASRock, it is fair to think they are on a pretty low one.
    This for an established core large international partner albeit currently on the motherboard side with its own sales channel agreement, but this is not entirely the same situation as a new partner.
     
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    If I'm not mistaken this outlet is one of the hoards who pick up hundreds of boards for mining and sells them at insanely high premiums to other miners
     
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    It's an outlet in the US that sells Biostar AMD cards. At the moment the most desirable mining cards are at insanely high premiums no matter where you look in the US.
     
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    Those aren't even the most desirable ones, Micron memories are preferred apparently these days
     
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    AMD Will Release a Raven Ridge APU Graphics driver once each Three Months
    http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/am...u-graphics-driver-once-each-three-months.html
     
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    Not sure if this is the right thread, but AMD's joint venture with THATIC has spawned Dhyana CPUs from Hygon.
    Dhyana is practically AMD Epyc, same Linux patches work for both if you correct the device and manufacturer id's.
    Apparently they get pass the x86-licensing woes like this:
    AMD owns majority of HMC, which then has access to AMDs x86-license. HMC then licenses that IP to Hygon so Hygon can develop a chip design to sell back to HMC, which then manufactures it wherever and then sells back to Hygon, which then brings it to market. AMD owns minority share of Hygon, too.


    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-zen-x86-processor-dryhana,37417.html
     
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    <delete me>
     
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    That's certainly promissing :
     
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    If "IPC" means "performance/MHz" and 256-bit AVX units are involved, it may not mean much for games and other tasks. Still good news, though.
     
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    yeah, scientific apps are likely biased towards vector units performance. I personally missed that implication
     
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    It's a field the current generation is already strong in, so good to see increased IPC at these workloads if the rumours are true.
     
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    The rumors come from the source of the disclosures for 1st gen Zen , so they sould have substance
     
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    Then again their Vega stuff was way off
     
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    AVX in Zen is half speed, 13% for full speed AVX is bad, it should be more like ~80% if it's 100% AVX instructions.
    If the benchmark is scaling capped because of data dependencies it'd be a crappy benchmark for IPC. An IPC benchmark should ideally guarantee arbitrary positive number of "Instructions per Clock". E.g. you can create artificially constructed loops for Zen with an achieved IPC of 4.
     
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    As I understood it, +13% is an average value over a suite of benchmarks, some portion of which may include a portion of AVX instructions.
     
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    Their GPU sales is significantly down, the death of the mining craze hit them hard. They also cite high channel GPU inventory problems. So I guess they suffered the same problem as NVIDIA did with Pascal.

    quarterlyearnings.amd.com/static-files/8ffabcf1-4674-43d7-9299-ab2c942a77b2
     
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