Yes agreed that does seem like a nice advantage. I wonder if it was a specific design choice to allow quick swapping of the headset on the assumption that PSVR will be passed around people in a social setting more often than the likely more solo use PC headsets.
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Yes agreed that does seem like a nice advantage. I wonder if it was a specific design choice to allow quick swapping of the headset on the assumption that PSVR will be passed around people in a social setting more often than the likely more solo use PC headsets.
Or just don't play in a bright room?
Yes, that's one of the downsides of the PSVR design.
Good point. On reflection I'm sure that would have been one of the requirements, consoles vare inherently more social anyway (TV, living room), but especially once they started working on VR the Playroom.
It's the accumulation of designing HMD's for 20 years. Sony was competing with itself, that's why they ended up with the most comfortable headset. Competitors look at each other and went: "Oh you have a ski mask too? Well, good enough for me!" Once they realise who the true competitor is, the comfort in their headsets will increase. Even if PC lacks any social use for VR; they have to improve the design.
I still don't understand the issue, I mean - I never watch TV in a bright room (well other than just daytime rubbish), everyone who has tested this thing has tested it in a non 'home playing a game' scenario. I suppose if it is an issue for 'you' then at least there are easy fixes or ways to minimise the effect.
hmm, now i wonder about psvr's ability to handle sweat
No. There is tons of evidence out there that the RIft is extremely comfortable once fitted correctly. Granted, it takes some fiddling to get right - and that's not a good thing. But the consensus seems to be that once right, it's extremely comfortable. Vive, unfortunately doesn't sound as great.
http://www.roadtovr.com/oculus-rift-review-prologue-to-a-new-reality/#fit_and_comfort
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/4e316x/psa_loosen_the_straps_way_more_than_you_think_its/
32:50 onwards:
Now I really think it's time to stop propagating this fallacy of uncomfortable/unergonomic ski mask.
But for those with glasses, Psvr > Vive > rift
I thought for comfort anyway it was Psvr > Rift > Vive? I think @pjbliverpool is just saying that Rift is not as uncomfortable as @Egmon83 is making out.
I'm actually assuming Rift and and PSVR are equally comfortable (although it will vary by user). However PSVR gets the nod because it's easier to make it comfortable in the first place and it's better for glasses users. The comparison to Rift is muddied because some people are wearing it correctly, while others aren't, so the reporting of it's comfort level is inconsistent while for PSVR it's much more consistent.
The only direct comparison that I've come across from what appears to be a reliable source that has spent a good amount of time with both is the following:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/4bbrtg/insider_leak_readible_summary/
Yes, I suppose I oversimplified things - but essentially your main issue is that Rift isn't as uncomfortable as @Egmon83 keeps implying.
A few quotes from your link;
"Headset design - The Rift is actually quite fragile and the cloth material is prone to get really dirty. And there is a chance that the consumer version might actually be heavier than the 470g we all saw in the GIF a few weeks ago. They might have to add additional shielding to pass FCC regulations.
It does indeed weigh 470g but it's evenly distributed across the head. feels more comfortable and refined than the Vive but not quite like the PSVR for long sessions."
"Q: Do you mean the Rift doesn't press against your face with any noteworthy amount of force? From the sounds of it the display for the PSVR actually kind of hovers in front of your face and is only attached to the ring on your head. From what I've heard the Rift is very light and barely noticeable, but I can't imagine that headstrap would be able to hold the display a distance from your face without touching it the way PSVR seems to.
A: The Rift doesn't press against your face but it still touches it and applies a bit of weight on your cheekbones. It's great comfort wise but I can wear PSVR for longer without even noticing it."
And about the gap on PSVR...
"Q: Is there gap at the nose part on PSVR that lets light in more than the other 2 headsets?
A: Since PSVR doesn't touch your face for the most part there is more light leaking in than with the Rift and Vive. Not just at the nose but all around the eyebox It's not too bad IMO but you might want to play in a dark room if that's something you don't like."
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Doesn't sound like this chap has used the latest PSVR mind
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Maybe not, but he says it's better for longer use so not sure what difference it makes.
True, but he also says "from what I can tell close or identical" I can't imagine Sony made it worse since.
Well I'm with you, I almost always play in a dim room and I've assumed that this wouldn't be a problem for me. But ambient light in the HMD is undoubtedly a downside; however given what Sony wanted to do probably an inevitable one.
Like all of the HMD makers they had to make engineering choices based on what they wanted to deliver to their customers.
Not reliable: he would never place the lens flare before real optics, so I discard the rest.
It's the same user that claimed DK2 didn't have screen door anymore, no?
You tell me. Link?
Is that one person's subjective opinion important? There are so many much more detailed opinions from real people...
I don't like anonymous dev "leaks", I don't understand the motives. Biases and conflicts of interest abound.
Ben from RoadToVR is a very good source so far, for multiple reasons. I don't like the guys from Tested, they're horrible. Kyle from Ars is even worse. Anyway... it's the sum of all subjective opinions which is useful.
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I don't like anonymous dev "leaks", I don't understand the motives. Biases and conflicts of interest abound.
Ben from RoadToVR is a very good source so far, for multiple reasons. I don't like the guys from Tested, they're horrible. Kyle from Ars is even worse. Anyway... it's the sum of all subjective opinions which is useful.
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