Sony Game Studios Acquisitions [2022]

[Silent_Buddha]

It is Sega's Atlus and Microsoft's Mojang

Oh hey, I never noticed that Mojang was organized as a Microsoft Subsidiary.

Regards,
SB

 

[techuse]

Zynga bought peak for 1.8B , Trencent bought Leyou for 1.5B , Ea bought Code masters for 1.2B , Trencent bought Super cell for 8.6B , Activision bought king for 5.9B and then MS bought Mojan for 2.5B tThe zynga deal took place prior to Microsoft / Zenimax deal

Of all the companies you listed, only Microsoft is a console manufacturer.

 

[orangpelupa]

Hopefully Sony buying bungie means bungie will get restrained again. Like when they was under Microsoft and Activision.

Bungie went drunk with freedom when they went independent from Activision (ridiculous "gambling" mechanic, ridiculous MTX, ridiculously thin DLCs, etc)

 

[orangpelupa]

How much money has Destiny made? Or is making? Never seen anything about it.

Its (probably) about the addicts. Destiny got lots of addicts.

 

[eastmen]

And the key part of this acquisition that is unlike any other acquisition by Sony or MS WRT gaming. [edit] Just brought to my attention that Mojang is actually a subsidiary of Microsoft.

Bungie will be a wholly owned but independent subsidiary of Sony. Bungie aren't technically part of Sony's game studios.

That means that while Sony does own Bungie, Bungie operates independently of Sony. Of course, they'll likely interoperate with Sony's gaming studios, but they don't necessarily need or require Sony's approval for any business decisions that they make.

It also means that for the most part Bungie decides what games Bungie wants to make. Bungie gets to decide who they want to publish their games (probably PlayStation, but could be another publisher if they want). Bungie gets to decide what platforms they want to make games on.

Regards,
SB

How long until Bungie wants out. Its repeated behavior. Sold themselves to MS and then wanted more creative control and MS spun them out. Went to acitvision and then left to have more creative control. Now sony ,.,,,, Did i miss any steps ?

 

[eastmen]

Of all the companies you listed, only Microsoft is a console manufacturer.

Out of the companies that MS bought how many only make console games ?

 

[Inuhanyou]

Yeah. Destiny 2 stays multi. It says nothing about anything after that.
Also, clearly this isn’t Sony “panic buying”, simply because this kind of deal has been months in the making. You don’t just pick up the phone after seeing MS buying Activision and go ‘let’s do this’.

Not after Activision no, but after Bethesda they clearly felt the need to respond

 

[Inuhanyou]

So, is this aquirement made by sony any 'better' then what MS has done or is doing? In my book their both as 'bad' or 'good' however you want to see it.
MS got alot of flak for their aquiring here and even at DF.

As far as consolidation it's not better. But the absolute bottom tier of actually being able to play those games on ones platform of choice is much preferable

 

[JPT]

I doubt this is a knee jerk reaction, I mean I would love to have $3.6Bn to spend on dumb knee jerk reaction. It's not what you do, no matter how much money you have. (In my experience, people that have a lot of money, knows the value of said money and they do not part with it easily)
Which makes me wonder about the strategy, I mean GaaS and Destiny + future IP seems way too steep. But then again I have no idea bout the numbers Bungie racks up, but...... man how good are they at passing gaas

 

[techuse]

Out of the companies that MS bought how many only make console games ?

What is the relevance of this?

 

[orangpelupa]

I doubt this is a knee jerk reaction, I mean I would love to have $3.6Bn to spend on dumb knee jerk reaction. It's not what you do, no matter how much money you have. (In my experience, people that have a lot of money, knows the value of said money and they do not part with it easily)
Which makes me wonder about the strategy, I mean GaaS and Destiny + future IP seems way too steep. But then again I have no idea bout the numbers Bungie racks up, but...... man how good are they at passing gaas

Probably it was since Microsoft rumored buying bungie. So Sony's offer probably more in-line with what bungie wants

 

[iceberg187]

I'm still trying to make sense of this to be honest. The one thing that I keep going back to is that this seems to point towards more of a multi-platform approach from Sony in the future. Day and date releases with PC and maybe others in the future.

 

[dobwal]

And the key part of this acquisition that is unlike any other acquisition by Sony or MS WRT gaming. [edit] Just brought to my attention that Mojang is actually a subsidiary of Microsoft.

Bungie will be a wholly owned but independent subsidiary of Sony. Bungie aren't technically part of Sony's game studios.

That means that while Sony does own Bungie, Bungie operates independently of Sony. Of course, they'll likely interoperate with Sony's gaming studios, but they don't necessarily need or require Sony's approval for any business decisions that they make.

It also means that for the most part Bungie decides what games Bungie wants to make. Bungie gets to decide who they want to publish their games (probably PlayStation, but could be another publisher if they want). Bungie gets to decide what platforms they want to make games on.

Regards,
SB

Subsidiaries may have their own leadership structure. It doesn’t mean they operate totally independent of their holding company. They are going to report to someone and that person or persons will have discretion on how Bungie ultimately operates.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I'm still trying to make sense of this to be honest. The one thing that I keep going back to is that this seems to point towards more of a multi-platform approach from Sony in the future. Day and date releases with PC and maybe others in the future.

It'll be dependent on the studio and the game.

 

[dobwal]

I agree, even then, I can't see how this is a response to MS buying AB necessarily - except slightly more motivation to shore up your FPS line.

As Cheapchips said earlier, if you spent 70B to take a slightly larger slice of the 300million console owners/revenue, you failed. MS wouldn't spend 70B to get back barely any return. There is a larger play in the works here to keep these particular companies away from new entrants while leveraging them for whatever is next.

I see these moves nearly as a coalition against the big incoming 3 except they are looking out for themselves. The landscape in the retail console space has not changed all that much since these acquisitions, and even if there is some change, it's not bound to be major. But amazon, facebook and google coming in with committed funding, that would change the landscape. So while the big 3 are still getting their act together, MS and Sony are making moves and announcing now that they will continue to make them.

This is just how I view it.

They want the content as well as the infrastructure the produces it. With subscription becoming a thing, content ownership becomes paramount. Because licensing fees aren’t cheap and having your services almost totally dependent on licensed content can become cost prohibitive very quickly.

It’s been a standard practice in the TV space for years with it migrating from free over the air networks to premium cable then to subscription services. It’s more relevant now in the gaming space because you aren’t require to constantly invest to keep an IP productive anymore. Subscriptions and BC give older titles larger and longer tails then they use to have.

 

[dobwal]

Microsoft has started the acquisition wars. This is terrible for gaming.

Why? One wrong move with a new generation of hardware can force a hardware manufacturer to bow out completely.

Owning a ton of relevant content provides for a more stable Sony and MS. Put it this way how has Nintendo and all the IP that it owns and use to exclusively support their platforms hurt the overall gaming market?

If it weren’t for Mario, Zelda, Pokémon or whatever dozens of IPS that have been popular at one time or the other, Nintendo may have been crushed by Sony and MS.

The problem with exclusivity is that it hampers market participation which opens the door for third party titles. Unless a platform owns a dominant market share, the potential is always greater for a multi platform title. It can have a bigger development as well as marketing budget. It’s the reason why the biggest IPs in the gaming space aren’t exclusive to one platform.

Let MS or Sony take COD, Destiny or other associated titles exclusive. Third party titles will more than likely take their place.

 

[orangpelupa]

I'm still trying to make sense of this to be honest. The one thing that I keep going back to is that this seems to point towards more of a multi-platform approach from Sony in the future. Day and date releases with PC and maybe others in the future.

Maybe not day one, so they also can get people to double dip.

Or maybe they will be day one, and will support cross save with playstation. But with exclusive contents on playstation

 

[Nesh]

Why? One wrong move with a new generation of hardware can force a hardware manufacturer to bow out completely.

Owning a ton of relevant content provides for a more stable Sony and MS. Put it this way how has Nintendo and all the IP that it owns and use to exclusively support their platforms hurt the overall gaming market?

If it weren’t for Mario, Zelda, Pokémon or whatever dozens of IPS that have been popular at one time or the other, Nintendo may have been crushed by Sony and MS.

The problem with exclusivity is that it hampers market participation which opens the door for third party titles. Unless a platform owns a dominant market share, the potential is always greater for a multi platform title. It can have a bigger development as well as marketing budget. It’s the reason why the biggest IPs in the gaming space aren’t exclusive to one platform.

Let MS or Sony take COD, Destiny or other associated titles exclusive. Third party titles will more than likely take their place.

Nintendo created everything by themselves. They are Nintendo. They are Zelda, Mario and what not.
Nintendo didnt buy multiplatfom Myiamoto Studios and the accessibility of its titles away from others.
Also Sony most of the part either created their own studios or bought not very popular small talented studios and made them big.
But it's becoming destructive for the industry when a company buys those big popular multiplatfrom studios and their games.

 

[Deleted member 11852]

I dunno. Based on what Jim said they aren't going to be touching Bungie, just taking it's live service money

Bungie must be getting something more out of the deal. They were already making money, so why give up yours profitable business to be owned by somebody else who takes the profit without getting something in return? That would be a weird decision. There is probably more to it.

I don't play Destiny so based on known facts today, I'm not fussed about this acquisition.

 

[mr magoo]

Bungie must be getting something more out of the deal. They were already making money, so why give up yours profitable business to be owned by somebody else who takes the profit without getting something in return? That would be a weird decision. There is probably more to it.

I don't play Destiny so based on known facts today, I'm not fussed about this acquisition.

They bought themselves free from Acti/Blizz not so long time ago just to be owned by Sony. Indeed it seems weird