Some interesting read wrt Homosexuality as a choice
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x 10^10^10london-boy said:
i felt their positions were rather substantial and psychologically accurate. Do you care to respond.
For one i found the argument over the definition of homosexuality as classic. The author demonstrated just how bias motivated LeVay among others to manipulate the definition of homosexual to firt the parameters of what they were trying to prove.
I have always interprited Levay's later denials wrt to establishing genetic homosexuality as a means to avoid being called a fraud. he didn't issue these statements until well after the fact and they simply do not address his tamporing with his samples.
Want me to comment?
I don't need a scientist/book/report to tell me how i feel, why i feel what i feel, when, where, who...
I didn't "choose" who i am, i was made this way; the only thing i choose was to "get over it and live my life the way i think it should be lived".
If it's genetic, fine, if it's not, fine, it's not going to change my view of the world, i'm not going to "pull through", i'm not going to change my "way of life" which some bigotry-infused people think is some kind of Cabaret Show mixed with Will&Grace mixed with Graham Norton. Sorry, i'm not THAT gay.
Why r u interested though?
(And no, i didn't bother reading the articles)
I don't need a scientist/book/report to tell me how i feel, why i feel what i feel, when, where, who...
I didn't "choose" who i am, i was made this way; the only thing i choose was to "get over it and live my life the way i think it should be lived".
If it's genetic, fine, if it's not, fine, it's not going to change my view of the world, i'm not going to "pull through", i'm not going to change my "way of life" which some bigotry-infused people think is some kind of Cabaret Show mixed with Will&Grace mixed with Graham Norton. Sorry, i'm not THAT gay.
Why r u interested though?
(And no, i didn't bother reading the articles)
Gubbi said:
Seen how he (and many others around this forum) is so obsesses with this subject, i would think the same thing myself...
I mean, this kind of discussions are only second to politics in this forum... That's saying something...
Legion,
As a gay teen, I spent a few years investagating - the origins of homosexuality.
This included 'scientific investigations' into sexual orientation. While it's an interesting subject to research - you have to realise that ultimately (and most gay rights organisations agree on this) that the 'origins of sexuality' should make no difference to civil, political and human rights. Equality does not require scientific justification.
I just get the feeling that on this board the more conservative members get a little to 'involved' with why people are gay, and seem to miss that - It doesn't really matter.
As a gay teen, I spent a few years investagating - the origins of homosexuality.
This included 'scientific investigations' into sexual orientation. While it's an interesting subject to research - you have to realise that ultimately (and most gay rights organisations agree on this) that the 'origins of sexuality' should make no difference to civil, political and human rights. Equality does not require scientific justification.
I just get the feeling that on this board the more conservative members get a little to 'involved' with why people are gay, and seem to miss that - It doesn't really matter.
Of course it matters.PeterAce said:
If its something you cannot change, then you cannot be held responsible for it, and it would be wrong to deny you rights based on your god given status.
If it's something you can change, then its a lifestyle choice, and people can look at it with disgust because they find the action abhorrent and against their religious tenets.
But in the end, you're probably right. it doesn't matter. People who don't like gays now won't change if you could come out with undeniable proof that it isn't a choice, nor would any gays accept that there's anything wrong with their lifestyle if its conclusively shown to be a lifestyle choice.
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Yes, same thing occured with trans-racial relations. As long as the rights are given, and they are respected as members of society, the disguised bigotry will go away with time.
