SEGA Developing MODEL 4 In Conjunction With Saarland University?

Are they popular games?

2 Spicy Very popular
Hummer Recently released
Sega Race TV Underperformed
Lets Go Jungle Very Popular
Answer X Answer Extremely popular
Primevil Hunt Popular
R Tuned: Ultimate Street Racing Extremely popular
 
If FGNOnline is indeed reporting the truth, then very soon we shall be playing videogames with the following graphics in realtime -

CasinoBusCanopy_1.png

Er... not really.

We render a lot with raytracing nowadays and our usual times for a complete frame are 30 minutes to a few hours - without any reasonable enviroments. Just characters (although admittedly complex ones) with final gather lighting, raytraced area shadows, SSS skin shaders and some raytraced reflections. All the backgrounds were matte paintings and none of these multi-bounce complex stuff...

We use dual quad core CPU machines for the render farm and fairly good quality settings (motion blur too), and 720p resolution. Doing just our stuff in real time would require a several orders of magnitude increase in computing speed. Add some nice enviroments and the requirements jump at least another order.
 
Popular according to whom? I went to the Seattle Gameworks back in late March and NONE of those games were there. most everything was at least a decade old, if not more.

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It may be Japan. It's why I don't necessarily agree with grandmaster's claim that arcade games just exist to be ported to home consoles. Sega has quite a few games that will probably never see a home console release, one expects that they make money from them (but then it is Sega, so maybe not). Tekken 6 has been out since November 2007 (and Bloodline Rebellion since December 2008), it'll hit home console only later this year. Again, I'm sure they're making money or they would have gone right away to a console release like Capcom did with SF4.
 
I went to the Seattle Gameworks back in late March and NONE of those games were there. most everything was at least a decade old, if not more.

I'm suprised to hear that as this is definitely not true for the other GameWorks locations.
 
2 Spicy Very popular
Hummer Recently released
Sega Race TV Underperformed
Lets Go Jungle Very Popular
Answer X Answer Extremely popular
Primevil Hunt Popular
R Tuned: Ultimate Street Racing Extremely popular

I have never heard anything about any of these games before.
 
I have never heard anything about any of these games before.

If you are not an arcade gamer/arcade-goer and neither are you an individual who keeps up to date with the arcade industry, then no, you obviously will not of heard of them. However if you were someone like myself, then you'd know that these games are the current "it" games of the arcade scene.

Keep in mind the games listed are only LINDBERGH's original IP's, as was asked by V3. LINDBERGH's non-original IP's which you can find on the list "P on the rocks" posted are just as popular and just as "it".

So in conclusion, SEGA SAMMY is still the king of the arcade, have always been and probably always will be.

Thus I am hoping the FGN report is true, and that SEGA will yet again take gamer's to the next level!
 
If you are not an arcade gamer/arcade-goer and neither are you an individual who keeps up to date with the arcade industry, then no, you obviously will not of heard of them. However if you were someone like myself, then you'd know that these games are the current "it" games of the arcade scene.

Keep in mind the games listed are only LINDBERGH's original IP's, as was asked by V3. LINDBERGH's non-original IP's which you can find on the list "P on the rocks" posted are just as popular and just as "it".

So in conclusion, SEGA SAMMY is still the king of the arcade, have always been and probably always will be.

Thus I am hoping the FGN report is true, and that SEGA will yet again take gamer's to the next level!

But if I have to be a hardcore arcade fan to know these games it pretty much proves that the arcade scene has shrunk.

A decade ago I was familiar with "every" arcade hit. I remember a ton of superb arcade games of the old. Now it is harder since the arcades are no where as popular, there arent as many places to play arcades as they used to, they dont bring all the newest games anymore, and there arent many news regarding what arcade games are available and will be released.

A long time ago, gaming magazines had their arcade sections. Online sites reported the next best thing at the arcades.

The arcade audience and the console audience werent that different. Today there is the large console audience and the niche and small arcade audience. Obviously arcade news dont get the same popularity as they used to.

Sega Sammy is probably the strongest player at the arcades. But the arcade scene they are participating in unfortunately isnt as big as it used to.
 
2 Spicy Very popular
Hummer Recently released
Sega Race TV Underperformed
Lets Go Jungle Very Popular
Answer X Answer Extremely popular
Primevil Hunt Popular
R Tuned: Ultimate Street Racing Extremely popular

Games like Daytona open arcades. None of those games are even good enough to save them from closure of their Sega arcades throughout Japan.

A serious realtime raytracers are just going to put more of those arcade out of business, because the cost of running one is going to compound the fact that Sega new games are not as good as it used to be at bringing in customers.
 
Although this isn't related to the MODEL 4, it shows that SEGA SAMMY are increasing R&D in their arcade business.

Sega machines with double touch screen

18.06.09 - Sega announced that its investment in the arcade business will increase and this new machine with double touch-screen technology will offer in Japan. What games are in preparation, said Sega is not.

http://translate.google.com/transla...p://gamefront.de/&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=

So, SEGA has now publicly admitted that the budget for research and development in their arcade sector is to increase.

The technology mentioned by gamefront.de seems to be the first product as a direct result of this.

But what other plans does SEGA SAMMY have?

Hmm.....maybe the FGN report had some weight to it.
 
Although this isn't related to the MODEL 4, it shows that SEGA SAMMY are increasing R&D in their arcade business.



http://translate.google.com/transla...p://gamefront.de/&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=

So, SEGA has now publicly admitted that the budget for research and development in their arcade sector is to increase.

The technology mentioned by gamefront.de seems to be the first product as a direct result of this.

But what other plans does SEGA SAMMY have?

Hmm.....maybe the FGN report had some weight to it.

Touch screen, wow just imagine playing a Sega videogame using such technology, On second thought have you actually tried any to know how nasty such an interface is for split second precision gameplay?
 
I stopped watching after just over a minute in or so. Where was the correct method?

And I know you weren't using that game to showcase this 'incredible tech" Sega has been pumping out, were you?
 
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I stopped watching after just over a minute in or so. Where was the correct method?

And I know you weren't using that game to showcase this 'incredible tech" Sega has pumping out, were you?

Watch the entire video. They show the touchscreen mechanics.
 
Uh huh. Ok, are you serious?!

That was your link to real time ray-tracing? Standard touch screen stuff that can be done (and has been) on an iPhone and Sega spending money means that they somehow leaped generations beyond?!!!

The more you go on about this stuff, the less you seem to be an honestly excited fan and the more you seem to be a corporate shill. What about that video impresses you?

If Sega has basically a ready to go real time raytracing hardware that capable, it pretty much makes a prospective neXtBox 720 and PS4 obsolete YEARS BEFORE WE'VE EVEN SEEN THEIR PROTOTYPE HARDWARE!!
 
His point still stands. In the video, the game appears to be paused during a lot of the touch screen interaction. And when it's not, it might as well be as there is very little on the screen that moves very fast or requires rapid intervention by the player.

"Can work" does not mean "works well" or even "works better than available control schemes".
 
Saarland had real time raytracing on an FPGA years ago.
A company called Caustic do a real time RT card card (also an FPGA).
IBM have also shown real time software raytracing on 3 PS3s.

Real time raytracing for games is not that far off, that someone might be working on it should be no surprise.
 
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