rumblings of something huge going on with SEGA

Here's what "headgehog boy" has to say:


All I’ve been able to wring out of some of my Visual Concepts informants is that it’s an announcement that could seriously upset the balance of power in the next Console Wars!


Hmm... Sega exclusively developing games for Xbox2?
 
bbot said:
Here's what "headgehog boy" has to say:


All I’ve been able to wring out of some of my Visual Concepts informants is that it’s an announcement that could seriously upset the balance of power in the next Console Wars!


Hmm... Sega exclusively developing games for Xbox2?

Well, I think it'd be more likely to be just Visual Concepts exclusive to one system, but that'd only make a big difference in sega's world, as VC games don't sell close to EA now, and they won't when they're exclusive.(this isn't fact or rumor, just so noone gets confused)
 
Actually, the surpise may be pretty lame

like...

Sega being the new publishers of "The Matrix: Online"

goto: http://www.sega.com/home.php
check out the source code
search for "matrix"



in short, the source code for the sega home page has a commented-out link to The Matrix: Online

If this is the suprise, then Sega hasn't changed. They continue to punk their fans :/
 
trilobyte said:
Actually, the surpise may be pretty lame

like...

Sega being the new publishers of "The Matrix: Online"

goto: http://www.sega.com/home.php
check out the source code
search for "matrix"



in short, the source code for the sega home page has a commented-out link to The Matrix: Online

If this is the suprise, then Sega hasn't changed. They continue to punk their fans :/

It´d be really funny and sad if this really was the surprise announcement. I´m not expecting anything out of this "Segaton" of sorts, so I may be the only one who may see it like that.:)
 
When Sony and Samsung formed an alliance for LCD TV's a few months back, Ken Kutaragi said something intresting.

Sony executive deputy president Ken Kutaragi said his firm would try to develop some of its technology to create clearer, more realistic images and more functions on flat-panel screens.

"You would be surprised at the kind of features that will be on TVs going forward," Kutaragi said.

http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/wed/ct/Qskorea-technology-japan.RHYy_DOS.html

If Sony is willing to partner 50/50 with Samsung on LCD's, why not the "CELL" vision? Proliferation of CELL into as many devices as possible is paramount.
 
Crazyace said:
Maybe ( as a feeble form of defence ) I would have to point out that this is also a symptom shown by the single precision fmac on the sh4 - To claim that the result is random though is to show a certain lack of understanding about multiplication and rounding ;)

( Quick - hide this argument before DM or Lazy8s picks up on it... :D )
EDIT Ooops .. you said fmac/MAD not Dot Product... doesn't matter, the issues are the same...

According to the SH4 programming manual, my understanding was that it was accurate but that you wouldn't get the same result as if you explicitly coded the dot product as, say, 1 MUL and 3 MADs or 4 MULs and 3 ADDs, but that is to be expected. The same is likely to occur in any HW - it's the nature of floating point.
 
Hmm... Sega exclusively developing games for Xbox2?

Why would that change the balance of power? Appart from maybe Sonic, what new series (new to MS, as in one they don't already have exclusive from Sega) would MS get that would fill a gap in there exclusive lineup?

Now Sega exclusive to Nintendo would be significant and would definitely change the balance of power. Exclusive sports lineup, exclusive fighting lineup (the biggest around in Virtua Fighter) and exclusive racing games! That would fill in a hell of a lot of gaps in Nintendo's exclusive lineup.
 
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5089557

Sega to Co-Publish 'Matrix Online' Video Game
Mon May 10, 2004 07:22 AM ET
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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The U.S. arm of Japanese video game publisher Sega Corp. (7964.T: Quote, Profile, Research) on Monday said it has struck a deal with Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment to co-publish an online game based on the "Matrix" movies.

Sega of America said it would manage distribution of the game, while WBIE will oversee its development and operations and the two will jointly handle marketing. The game is expected to be released this November.

A console video game based on the "Matrix" films, Atari Inc.'s (ATAR.O: Quote, Profile, Research) "Enter the Matrix," drew poor reviews from the gaming press but still sold millions of units.

When "Matrix Online," one of a class of titles known as massively multiplayer online games, was first announced, it was to be published by France's Ubi Soft Entertainment. (UBIP.PA: Quote, Profile, Research) Ubi Soft dropped out of the project earlier this year.

"Matrix Online" is being developed with input from the Wachowski brothers, who wrote and directed the movies and oversaw the Atari game.

Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment is a unit of Warner Bros., part of Time Warner Inc. (TWX.N: Quote, Profile, Research)

© Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.
 
Matrix -> Samsung -> Sega

That ties the eariler rumour to the Matrix Online announcement.
Maybe a Sega developed 'Matrix Online' game for Samsung cellphones.
Samsung was after all the major advertiser with Matrix 2 (was it Reloaded or Revolutions, I always mix these two in my head :? ), don't know if they were involved still with Matrix 3, though.

edit: I'm wondering what goes in the heads of those who try to keep a dying (and somewhat failed) franchise such as Matrix trilogy still alive.
One would think that they'd see people are no more interested in the Matrix phenomenom, and that a Matrix branded product is no longer considered 'cool', 'new' or 'exciting'. Why put tons of money on marketing and developing an online universe, that is very likely to only attract moderate amount of people.
 
rabidrabbit said:
Matrix -> Samsung -> Sega

That ties the eariler rumour to the Matrix Online announcement.
Maybe a Sega developed 'Matrix Online' game for Samsung cellphones.
Samsung was after all the major advertiser with Matrix 2 (was it Reloaded or Revolutions, I always mix these two in my head :? ), don't know if they were involved still with Matrix 3, though.

edit: I'm wondering what goes in the heads of those who try to keep a dying (and somewhat failed) franchise such as Matrix trilogy still alive.
One would think that they'd see people are no more interested in the Matrix phenomenom, and that a Matrix branded product is no longer considered 'cool', 'new' or 'exciting'. Why put tons of money on marketing and developing an online universe, that is very likely to only attract moderate amount of people.


The thing is, there actually is A LOT of potential in the Matrix franchise. The fact that Reloaded and Revolutions were both utterly disgusting pieces of shit compared to the original doesn't mean that if one were to pick up the franchise and handle it properly, something amazing turn out of it... (I know, sometimes i'm not all too clear when i write)
 
Well, yes. But in the minds of the movie-going, average gaming public, the image of Matrix is somewhat ruined because of the disappointing two sequels.

It is possible that the game turns out to be great, but it needs a lot of marketing to convince the average gaming folks. Hardcore gamers are of course different, they'll find the quality games regardless of the franchise.

Wouldn't it have been wiser (ok, but not necessarily cheaper) for the company to have discarded the Matrix projects as soon as the bad reviews and box office results of the last movie were in know, and pick up some another film license, like Xmen or something.
 
rabidrabbit said:
Well, yes. But in the minds of the movie-going, average gaming public, the image of Matrix is somewhat ruined because of the disappointing two sequels.

It is possible that the game turns out to be great, but it needs a lot of marketing to convince the average gaming folks. Hardcore gamers are of course different, they'll find the quality games regardless of the franchise.

Wouldn't it have been wiser (ok, but not necessarily cheaper) for the company to have discarded the Matrix projects as soon as the bad reviews and box office results of the last movie were in know, and pick up some another film license, like Xmen or something.


The thing is, Reloaded and Revolutions were "the same film", they were shot together, then cut in half. Pretty much like LOTR trilogy. So they couldn't have changed things at the last minute knowing how Reloaded turned out, because by the time it came out, Revolutions was already done. And certainly they couldn't just have left it, with all the money they invested on it, better to release it and have it bomb than not release it at all. They did make a lot of money in the end....
 
with all due respect, but matrix reloaded and revolutions being "disappointing" to you folks proves that, sadly, you and unfortunately the majority obviously didn't grasp the movie and its message / point. Enough said. </rant>
 
If there was a message then it was literally killed by all the mindless and unnecessary action and cg ;) That already happend in the last 25 minutes of the original matrix movie. So i kinda expected it.

Back on topic: MMORPG? I guess that means PC or what? :?
 
Phil said:
with all due respect, but matrix reloaded and revolutions being "disappointing" to you folks proves that, sadly, you and unfortunately the majority obviously didn't grasp the movie and its message / point. Enough said. </rant>

Phil, the "message/point" of the movies was grasped. Very much so. But you cannot deny that for someone expecting something better than the first, those sequels were a MAJOR disappointment.
No need for the attitude, i'm sure you can get your point across without all the attitude.
 
Sorry about that. The additude was directed not at you guys directly. Well when I read something like this:

london-boy said:
The thing is, Reloaded and Revolutions were "the same film", they were shot together, then cut in half. Pretty much like LOTR trilogy. So they couldn't have changed things at the last minute knowing how Reloaded turned out, because by the time it came out, Revolutions was already done.

Even if the two movies hadn't been shot together, the movie as a whole (the matrix trilogy) wouldn't be the movie it is. In other words, it was planned from the beginning this way and this is quite obvious when watching the first part which has key-elements that reference to the other two movies (which were made after the first part). The movie was planned as a trilogy - not some movie they decided to keep going because of the first part witout having any idea on what both sequels should be about. Unfortunately, only few appreciate the movie for what it is and its messages beneath. In other words, critize the trilogy as a whole, not just the 2 sequels.

Anyway, we obviously agree to disagree on this, so better leave this before this gets anymore OT (which it already is). Natoma once started a thread about this in the other forums anyway.
 
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