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ohnny's point is that, great games or not, these types of games - colorful, cute, bouncy - appeal to a relatively narrow slice of the total games market. Today's "average console owner" demands a wider variety of game styles and genres.

But GC does have a wider variety of games then just traditional Nintendo games. Check out what thread your posting in for just one example.
 
But GC does have a wider variety of games then just traditional Nintendo games. Check out what thread your posting in for just one example.

Of course there's more to Gamecube than Nintendo games. But not much more, especially in comparison with PS2 and Xbox.

Ask yourself (or anyone else): What do you think of when you think "Nintendo"?

You think Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid. THAT's Nintendo.

"Nintendo" doesn't mean a huge variety of games from every genre. It means pastel-colored game worlds and cute, Italian plumbers with white gloves.

It's no coincidence that Gamecube, like N64 before it, lacks the third-party depth and breadth of its competitors. Simply put, Nintendo sells game consoles primarily as a means of selling its own software.

That's fine if you're a hardcore Nintendo fan. But if you're not, it means a smaller game library that emphasizes colorful, Nintendo-made games and comes up lacking most everywhere else.

This is why I don't think the occasional "mature" title - even a monster game like RE4 - can trigger a sustained hardware sales lift for the console. People don't buy Gamecubes to play those games, because they're just too few and far between.
 
Kolgar said:
But GC does have a wider variety of games then just traditional Nintendo games. Check out what thread your posting in for just one example.


Ask yourself (or anyone else): What do you think of when you think "Nintendo"?


What you think and what is are kind of independent of eachother. ;)
 
Teasy, now you're just being difficult. :? Of course GC has more than just traditional Ninty games. I made the point quite clear in my last post, however - GC, like all Ninty platforms, is too heavily weighted with traditional "Nintendo" first-party games. There's just not enough else there to attract the bigger market of more casual or mainstream gamers.

Surely this isn't so difficult to understand? :)
 
Ask yourself (or anyone else): What do you think of when you think "Nintendo"?

You think Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, Metroid. THAT's Nintendo.

What do you think of when u think of the playstation 2 ?

Gt 3 and 4 ? gta 3 and its sequals ? metal gear solid ?

Mabye in total 5 -7 games that don't share the same name ? Then when u look back at the ps 1 you'll find that mabye 2-3 of those games are new to this generation ?

and at any point in time ms or nintendo can decided to pay out the ass for these franchises on thier systems and then what woudl u think of when we said sony ?

When u think of ms ?

Halo 1 + 2 ? anything else ?
 
Kolgar

Teasy, now you're just being difficult. Of course GC has more than just traditional Ninty games. I made the point quite clear in my last post

I'm not being difficult, you've just mis-understood. None of my last two posts have been aimed at you.

My last two posts were replies to Quincy (QRoach), as you can see I was quoting him in both posts.
 
SO what if you were replying to me. I do think you were attempting to be difficult. Kolgars answer is exactly what I was thinking. You're taking what was said FAR too literal.
 
The simple fact is GC does have more then just traditional Nintendo games.

The only "fact" is that people buy gamecube for nintendo's games, and this translates directly to why third parties haven't be able to move the same amount of units as the have on xbox typically. You might say Xbox is only about Halo, sure that's it's top selling game, but there's plenty of third party titles that have moved significant numbers of units "other than" halo.
 
SO what if you were replying to me. I do think you were attempting to be difficult. Kolgars answer is exactly what I was thinking. You're taking what was said FAR too literal.

Originally, in reply to Kolgar, I pointed out that GC does indeed have a wider variety of games then just traditional Nintendo games, that's all. As in his post it looked like he was saying that alll GC has are cutsey cartoon style games. He then replied and cleared things up and I didn't argue with him any further on the subject. How can that possibly be described as being difficult with Kolgar?.....

BTW yes the majority of GC owners buy the system primarily for Nintendo games. I've never claimed anything different.
 
Kolgar

I know what your saying, a lot of casual gamers have a certain perception of GC, not all of it based in reality. GC definitely has an image problem with these kind of people, which obviously isn't going to change this generation. Its possible for that image to be swayed a little though, with the right sort of success for games like RE4 and the new Zelda.

On RE4 and wether or not it can sell GC's. Remember that there are actually 5 Resident Evil games alone on GC, more then any other current generation console. So if you're a Res Evil fan GC is actually the console for you. Its a good console for survival horror in general. A lot of people may have been waiting for the truley new and truley AAA Res Evil game to come along before picking up the system though. Will Res Evil 4 sell loads of GC's? I don't know, as I said, its possible and that's all. One things for sure though, RE4 is one more good reason to own a GC.
 
Rest easy, Teasy. When I said you were being difficult, I meant it in a friendly, bop-you-on-the shoulder-and-shake-my-head-smiling sort of way. :)

I always like a good discussion, and this has been one of the most enjoyable I've had in quite a while. So, thanks.

You're right, we'll just have to see what effect RE4 has on GC sales. Surely, the game will be reason enough for some to purchase the hardware, especially if they've been sitting on the fence.

I'll maintain that the spike will be more like a bunny hop at most, however, because frankly, I don't think any RE fan worth their salt would have been able to pass up both RE and RE0 and wait until now to buy their Cube.

And finally, heck yeah, RE4 seems like a smashingly good reason to own the system. I'll be very excited to get my copy! :p
 
Johnny Awesome said:
I own a Cube and 5 games so I don't have anything against the system. I just think that Nintendo has lost their way and really screwed up with the Cube.

For my money Nintendo didn't lose their way at all. The GC is amazing and has amazing games. For Nintendos money, on the other hand, you are correct. I think this has to do with marketing and form factor as well as games. Nintendo got the kiddie rap which apparently is a bad thing in the game buying demographic.
 
i don't think GC owner are only interested in nintendo stuff.

yes i bought the GC because i like nintendo games, but i'm open to buy any non-nintendo software worth it.

burnout 2, timesplitter 2, bomberman, monkey ball, resident evil, viewtiful joe.. starwars and eternal darkness that are 2nd party but not nintendo stuff..

less than half of my games is nintendo stuff.

i think the problem third party is having on gamecube is not only a question of GC gamers being only interested in nintendo stuff, but also a problem with the quality of the nintendo 1st party.

nintendo makes very good stuff, with production and artistic value. it's hard for 3rd party to compete. the fact that nintendo stuff has some appeal on gc gamers doesn't help either of course.
 
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