R499

[tEd]

I'm a little surprised that this hasn't poped up yet so i'll do it.

In the latest ati hotfix drivers r499 makes an apperance in the inf file.

"R499" = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_724A
"R499 " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_724C
"R499 " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_724B
"R499 " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_724E
"R499 " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_724F
"R499 " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7248
"R499 " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7249
"R499 " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_724D
"R499 Secondary" = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_726A
"R499 Secondary " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_726F
"R499 Secondary " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7268
"R499 Secondary " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7269
"R499 Secondary " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_726C
"R499 Secondary " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_726D
"R499 Secondary " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_726B
"R499 Secondary " = ati2mtag_R499, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_726E

Not much else to see. It seems to be a SM3.0 part though

 

[digitalwanderer]

First I've heard of it.

 

[tEd]

I asked dave about it and he didn't know anything about it either but he thinks it could be pc driver code for xenos

 

[Geo]

I asked dave about it and he didn't know anything about it either but he thinks it could be pc driver code for xenos

Errm, excuse me?

And why would R4xx anything be SM3? Very odd.

 

[digitalwanderer]

I asked dave about it and he didn't know anything about it either but he thinks it could be pc driver code for xenos

PC driver code for Xenos? Why?!?

 

[Geo]

PC driver code for Xenos? Why?!?

Ha ha, my shock was a split second shockier than your shock. Neiner, neiner.

Edit: And, see, proof positive that Xenos is not R500! It's R499!

 

[Jawed]

Debug mode when XB360 is connected to a PC?

Jawed

 

[tEd]

Errm, excuse me?

And why would R4xx anything be SM3? Very odd.

The reason why i believe it's SM3.0 part is because you can read out the default drivers settings out of the inf file and on the r499 geometry instancing is enabled by default and that's only the case on the SM3.0 parts.On all SM2.x parts geometry instancing is disabled by default. Also adaptive AA is enabled on r499 while on all other r4xx and lower parts it is not.

 

[Xmas]

Debug mode when XB360 is connected to a PC?

Jawed

Then what is "R499 Secondary"?

 

[Deathlike2]

Then what is "R499 Secondary"?

That's usually how ATI does their dual display feature...

I'm in the belief that the extra registry entries are really just placeholder for copy+paste for the driver writer that deals with it... (the guy forgot/didn't bother to rid of them)

It seems to be a minor oversight.. besides... there is nothing to indicate a R499 designation as you throw any of the designations that have been used in their products...

 

[Xmas]

That's usually how ATI does their dual display feature...

And that doesn't fit with a XB360 connected to a PC, thus my question.

 

[Charmaka]

Early 360 dev kits were Mac boxes, yes? Did they have some kind of R500ish graphics setup? Not the real thing, but an approximation...

 

[digitalwanderer]

Early 360 dev kits were Mac boxes, yes? Did they have some kind of R500ish graphics setup? Not the real thing, but an approximation...

Is mac code included in the PC version of the drivers? (I don't know, macs give me hives. )

 

[Moloch]

er.
I thought the dev kits has X800s?

 

[Kaotik]

er.
I thought the dev kits has X800s?

First X800's, then something with R500's and then they turned to look like XBox360's too.

 

[MuFu]

I was thinking it might have been an old codename for R520 - not sure why it would only appear now though.

 

[Headstone]

could it possibly be a mainstream "replacement" for the x1600? Maybe a 8 or 12 pipe x1800 core. Remember that the x1600 is 12 pixel processors and not 12 shader pipes (or something like that )

 

[NocturnDragon]

I don't think so, ATI mainstream chips are usually called RVxxx this is a Rxxx.

I remember Dave hinting that when the R400 was halted they had some cards already produced those card could have been used in the X360 (alpha) beta kits.

And along with the X360 a PC driver could be needed to start some work on the DX10 tecnology.
Microsoft after all could have liked some board to test it on longhorn or XP and not just on the X360 OS (the G5 they used)

could it possibly be a mainstream "replacement" for the x1600? Maybe a 8 or 12 pipe x1800 core. Remember that the x1600 is 12 pixel processors and not 12 shader pipes (or something like that )

 

[Fodder]

could it possibly be a mainstream "replacement" for the x1600? Maybe a 8 or 12 pipe x1800 core. Remember that the x1600 is 12 pixel processors and not 12 shader pipes (or something like that )

I'd say it's also fairly safe to assume any X1x00 series cards will have a R5x0 codename, which for your proposed part would be the rumoured RV535, RV540 or RV560.

 

[Rys]

Just to bring this one back up from October, but R499 is how ATI are referencing X1900.

Chopped snippets from the driver .inf:

"Radeon X1900 Series" = ati2mtag_R499
"Radeon X1900 XTX" = ati2mtag_R499

Speculation on why they aren't using R580 on a postcard to the usual address.