PSX Details

[hey69]

PSX reminds me to those early VCD players with build in sega console and e joypad....

maybe when the PS3 will launch , Sony will sell the rights to PSONE so other manufacturers can use it in their dvdplayers

 

[London Geezer]

PSX reminds me to those early VCD players with build in sega console and e joypad....

maybe when the PS3 will launch , Sony will sell the rights to PSONE so other manufacturers can use it in their dvdplayers

errrr... why would they wanna do that?

 

[Fafalada]

Existing DVD recorders aren't used to play games they're used to record broadcasts and play DVDs. When you add in game playing, which will give the drive a good workout, you're decreasing the drive's life span by a significant amount.

A lot (if not most) PC DVD recorders are used in this way too - playing games, movies/shows, and recording. I'm sure with some digging you could find details about their lifespans too, and home units are only likely to be more reliable (more expensive parts ).

Anyway one nice thing about recorder units with HDD is that you only record stuff to DVDs that you actually intend to keep for a longer time - the common video recording function (record a show you can't watch at the same hour it aired) is taken care of by the HDD without waiting for disc burns

 

[hey69]

PSX reminds me to those early VCD players with build in sega console and e joypad....

maybe when the PS3 will launch , Sony will sell the rights to PSONE so other manufacturers can use it in their dvdplayers

errrr... why would they wanna do that?

well, Sony said they will support only 2 gameconsoles at a time (dont break my b@lls over this , i 'v read it a while ago.. ) at the moment , ps2 and playstation. when ps3 comes out, the original playstation won't be build anymore so my logic was instead of burying it, maybe they can sell or license or whatever the playstation chipset to other manufacturers?
(DVDPLAYER , TVs , laptops, ....)
If it has nipples, milk it!
imageine a dvdplayer with MP3, SVCD,DVD-R, PLAYstation logo on it. why not ..

 

[London Geezer]

PSX reminds me to those early VCD players with build in sega console and e joypad....

maybe when the PS3 will launch , Sony will sell the rights to PSONE so other manufacturers can use it in their dvdplayers

errrr... why would they wanna do that?

well, Sony said they will support only 2 gameconsoles at a time (dont break my b@lls over this , i 'v read it a while ago.. ) at the moment , ps2 and playstation. when ps3 comes out, the original playstation won't be build anymore so my logic was instead of burying it, maybe they can sell or license or whatever the playstation chipset to other manufacturers?
(DVDPLAYER , TVs , laptops, ....)
If it has nipples, milk it!
imageine a dvdplayer with MP3, SVCD,DVD-R, PLAYstation logo on it. why not ..

u're italian aint ya, "braking my balls" is a typical italian exclamation (litterally translated to english)... unless u people say exactly the same thing in belgium...

 

[rabidrabbit]

But why would DVD manufacturers wanna do that?
It costs, and I don't think it'd be a notable selling point.
They'd have to built all those controller and memcard ports on their dd players too.

Edit: l-b, is it really braking my balls they say in Italy? as in "I was braking hard to stop the car" Is that where you get the skid marks in your pants?

 

[London Geezer]

But why would DVD manufacturers wanna do that?
It costs, and I don't think it'd be a notable selling point.
They'd have to built all those controller and memcard ports on their dd players too.

Edit: l-b, is it really braking my balls they say in Italy? as in "I was braking hard to stop the car" Is that where you get the skid marks in your pants?

well, it's "breaking" like, breaking a glass... it means something along the lines of..er... "bothering someone".. in this case, "dont break my balls" would be something like "dont bother me" or "dont piss me off" or something like that...

 

[maskrider]

I will be on a business trip to Japan tomorrow, although my major task is the international audio show, I think I may be able to go to CEATEC.

Have a touch on that thing will be sweet, probably will take some close up shots if I am there. Heh !

See ya later.

 

[jvd]

is it just me or doe the color plastic ones look cheap . Other than that the system seems nice.

They've added a transparent layer (acrylic?perspex?) over the plastic casing, so it is not just plain white plastic. It gives the box a nice shiney surface texture ... using plastic IS cheap, but IMHO it doesn't look cheap. Just my $0.02

I'm talking about the red and blue ones. THe plastic looks really cheap to me. Otherwise its a nice system a bit pricey though.

 

[Paul]

It's not pricey at all.

Sure 700 dollars is alot, but this is dirt cheap compared to units that do many of the same functions.

 

[jvd]

true. I build a media pc for 400 . Aiw 8500pro , one of those cool shuttle boxes . a 2500xp , 200gig hardrive and that extigy sound card set up. I use that as my tivo and I play games on it too. Works well. But for most people that is not an option.

 

[PC-Engine]

Existing DVD recorders aren't used to play games they're used to record broadcasts and play DVDs. When you add in game playing, which will give the drive a good workout, you're decreasing the drive's life span by a significant amount.

A lot (if not most) PC DVD recorders are used in this way too - playing games, movies/shows, and recording. I'm sure with some digging you could find details about their lifespans too, and home units are only likely to be more reliable (more expensive parts ).

Anyway one nice thing about recorder units with HDD is that you only record stuff to DVDs that you actually intend to keep for a longer time - the common video recording function (record a show you can't watch at the same hour it aired) is taken care of by the HDD without waiting for disc burns

Most PC games are run from the HDD not a DVD recorder drive.

true. I build a media pc for 400 . Aiw 8500pro , one of those cool shuttle boxes . a 2500xp , 200gig hardrive and that extigy sound card set up. I use that as my tivo and I play games on it too. Works well. But for most people that is not an option.

Ditto, I'd also take aluminum over cheap plastic any day. DVI output to a plasma or DLP projector can't be beat.

Wouldn't it be cool if MS released an Xbox2 PCI Express card like how NEC released the PC-FX card for PC?

 

[notAFanB]

Most PC games are run from the HDD not a DVD recorder drive.

I am sure he meant he combined usage of games, media and 'other'.

 

[hey69]

, i'm not Italien, I'm a Turk . born and living in Belgium.

"breaking balls", comes also from French but actually I picked it up from American dialogue

 

[marconelly!]

I like the idea of applying the acrylic over the white plastic, that's obviously done to give the unit a look that differs from other devices on the market. Compared to Panasonic's DVD+HDD recorder, PSX is $400 cheaper although it has very nice added functionality in form of PS2 compatibility. They said they'd price it 'aggressively' and they did just that. I'd say all is good.

I like those aluminium D-Vine units too! All that equipment looks expensive.

Regarding PS2 DVD playback - don't forget that all the PS2 models up to the latest one didn't supported progressive scan DVD playback (Xbox still doesn't) It's no wonder a progressive enabled player would output better picture on a progressive enabled TV. The latest PS2 revision also sorts out other quirks in the DVD playback, like skipping/stoping on some DVD titles in addition to supporting pro-scan.

 

[zurich]

/offtopic

"Bust your balls" is also an American phrase. Pretty stupid if you ask me!

/ontopic

Mmmmm, HTPC!

 

[ChryZ]

First ever footage of PSX in action:

ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/dailyradar/sony/psx01.mpeg
ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/dailyradar/sony/psx02.mpeg
ftp://ftp.futurenet.co.uk/pub/dailyradar/sony/psx03.mpeg

 

[ChryZ]

The SOC development by 90nm semiconductor design environment is started.
- the world's first 90nm DRAM mixed loading SOC is carried in an HDD loading DVD recorder "PSX". -

Sony Corp. built the semiconductor design environment of 90nm process *1 which realizes the degree of high accumulation, and highly efficient development of SOC (System On Chip) more. In the design of "90nm EE+GS" which is the 90nmDRAM mixed loading SOC of first-in-the-world * on which this design environment has advanced maintenance from May, 2001, and Sony accumulated the function of CPU for HDD loading DVD recorders "PSX", and a drawing processor, the validity is already proved. Sony will be (untranslated phrase) which will not use this 90nm semiconductor design environment broadly, and will not further the degree of high accumulation, and highly efficient SOC development for various electronics products from now on. (As [ of * October 16, 2003 ], and Sony investigation.)

The semiconductor serves as an important key device which influences the added value of a product, while digitization of electronics apparatus and the correspondence to a network progress. Also in it, the semiconductor device called SOC which accumulated the main functions which apparatus has on one tip becomes important in the improvement in the function of a product, a performance, user-friendliness, etc. As for SOC, it is indispensable that the thing of the circuit scale exceeding 10 million gates also appears etc. for development of the electronics apparatus by which high performance and the environmental construction for being integrated highly and performing efficient SOC development for a short period of time have high added value recent years increasingly. In Sony, since it corresponds to this highly-efficient-izing and high integration of SOC, maintenance of the semiconductor design environment corresponding to a 90nm process generation has been advanced from May, 2001.

In addition to a fundamental merit called high integration of SOC, the improvement of the following large design conditions is made in 90nm design environment of Sony built lately.
- Improvement in the speed of operation processing and coexistence of power consumption reduction by the multi-library
- By the multi-Vth*2 design flow, reduce leak current to 50 - 70% of the conventional technique, and reduce power consumption.
- Introduce the newest logic composition tool and conventional ratio/[ about 1/] 3 shortening and a circuit scale also cut down design / verification period about 20%.
- By enriching a multi-power supply function, the design corresponding to the specification of various products is possible.
Furthermore, it became possible to carry out the cooperation design of hardware and the software by unifying the system design language to be used into "SystemC." Consequently, merits, such as control of increase of the design period accompanying the increase in efficiency of a verification of SOC of operation or functional verification, and high integration and large-scale-izing of a circuit, were realized.

Sony will accelerate SOC development various [ for in the company ] as a platform of SOC development of 90nm design environment from now on aiming at development of the more excellent product. Moreover, (untranslated phrase) to which the in-house design ratio of SOC for the Sony products which are 30% now will be pulled up to 50%, and in-house production of a high added value device will not be further developed within the limit of the 2005 fiscal year.

original japanese press release (translation by excite.co.jp):
http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/News/Press/200310/03-041/

 

[cthellis42]

...and in less interesting but still cool news, the PSX will also allow direct screen captures from within PS2 games, (Likely from within any of its video functions) which is just cool in general. ^_^

 

[ChryZ]

Peek-A-Boo

Hehe, sorry ... beer and posting, <u>not</u> a winning team