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The lack of a decent CPU bump is super lame.
PS4 Pro Speculation (PS4K NEO Kaio-Ken-Kutaragi-Kaz Neo-san)
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Probably trying to keep the cost/price down.
This will be a large experiment by Sony and I would expect depending on how it goes it will influence PS5 a lot. We will see how developers handle two systems and if they make the best version for both and also how customers respond. I think Sony will learn a lot of info of how to handle console transitions while maintaining compatibility.
But also... "We only ever show our oculus games on 980ti dual xeon at trade shows, but we recommend an i5 and 970! We swear!"
Sony actually used PS4s at trade shows, they deserve more credit for pulling it off honestly. That should be enough to make your joke fall flat.
But also... "We only ever show our oculus games on 980ti dual xeon at trade shows, but we recommend an i5 and 970! We swear!"
Sony actually used PS4s at trade shows, they deserve more credit for pulling it off honestly. That should be enough to make your joke fall flat.
I'm just commenting that if it's primarily marketed to improve the VR experience, then convincing people to buy VR for PS4 might be a tougher sell.
Well, it can't be a tough sell if it's the only 399 option around for those who already have a PS4 and camera like me. Then after the PS4K price drop they might get one to improve performance.
My own experience trying to buy a Vive system ends up much higher than even a new PS4K and PSVR, I don't see lost sales anywhere.
The same thing happens with those who already have a 970, they would like a 980ti but they get some guarantee games will be tested to work on their 970.
Hmm depending on the price and features I may sell my old ps4 for ps4k.
Especially if ps4k is quieter.
Especially if ps4k is quieter.
It's probably been written on his thread before it exploded, but if anything, the relatively small CPU bump and same RAM amount are pretty much proof that Neo really is aimed at keeping the gameplay the same and only using extra processing for VR, or extra eye candy.
I am just wondering how much more eye candy you can push in a game like, say, Farcry Primal, if running at the same res. Personally to me, the biggest thing would be improved lighting, but I don't think that's part of the deal. Extra res or AA in games which already look very clean seems like a missed opportunity.
Maybe it's Sony's master plan to push people to buy a 4K TV. Who knows.
Or maybe it was SquareEnix that convinced them - FF15 would probably run properly only on PS4K, as much as they try to convince us that the PS4 will keep getting optimised games.
I am just wondering how much more eye candy you can push in a game like, say, Farcry Primal, if running at the same res. Personally to me, the biggest thing would be improved lighting, but I don't think that's part of the deal. Extra res or AA in games which already look very clean seems like a missed opportunity.
Maybe it's Sony's master plan to push people to buy a 4K TV. Who knows.
Or maybe it was SquareEnix that convinced them - FF15 would probably run properly only on PS4K, as much as they try to convince us that the PS4 will keep getting optimised games.
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The codename Neo dovetails nicely wth PSVR's codename Morpheus but 'Neo' is latin for 'New'. New PS4 is exactly what it is.
Watching this IGN "panel" reaction vid to PS4 Neo. I'm 3 minutes in and they've already mentioned a bunch of stupid things like downloading special texture packs for the Neo version. So far, the general attitude I see from the pundits is expressing indifference, but not having anything positive to say about the concept and just running away with ideas about how it's stupid and could end up being bad for gamers.
It's an IGN panel. What do you expect?
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I don't think IGN has anybody on staff who really understands technology. You should listen to some of their podcasts! I like their gaming views but IGN is not a good place for anything technical.
If you don't 'get' the technical impact, I can see why PS4K doesn't seem that interesting.
If you don't 'get' the technical impact, I can see why PS4K doesn't seem that interesting.
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Why? You're basically going to have 2TF idling anyway, you aren't going to see 10% of this in games. No Neo only games by Sony edict.
Plus, you did get a CPU bump.
I dunno, I didn't expect a CPU bump, especially from AMD. What do they even have? Spare me the Zen til it's out...
I'm interested if this starts effecting current Ps4 sales negatively at any point. It was flat in March while XBO was up a bit, but I'd read zero into that. Given the nonsense rumors that always float around, I dont think Joe Average will take this seriously until much closer to release, so we'll have to wait for any impact.
This on GAF in case people here havent seem it
Bubub multiple iterations of hardware are freee! from a development perspective.
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I don't think IGN has anybody on staff who really understands technology. You should have heard the podcast including their initial PS4 technical assessment.
If you don't 'get' the technical impact, I can see why PS4K doesn't seem that interesting.
If you don't 'get' the technical impact, I can see why PS4K doesn't seem that interesting.
So... This for 450 while old at 350?
Or E3 will announce price drop and this for 400 and old but slim for 300? Or 350 and 250?
Seriously, no ps4 slim leak? Not even in the Ps4k documents?
It seems the perfect 1-2 punch to announce. Here's high tech badass ps4k for the same price as current ps4, 350usd.
Everyone applause.
And here's ps4 slim at lower price, 250 USD.
Everyone applause and I cry for the drop of second hand sale value of my old ps4
Or E3 will announce price drop and this for 400 and old but slim for 300? Or 350 and 250?
Seriously, no ps4 slim leak? Not even in the Ps4k documents?
It seems the perfect 1-2 punch to announce. Here's high tech badass ps4k for the same price as current ps4, 350usd.
Everyone applause.
And here's ps4 slim at lower price, 250 USD.
Everyone applause and I cry for the drop of second hand sale value of my old ps4
The one way i can see this working, Ps4 neo costs $399, alongside the neo Sony launch a Ps4 slim and price it at $199 or $249. In the long run this means more people get their hands on a Ps4 and software sales increase, while consumer that want a more powerful version can get it at $399. Sony really need to monitor the quality of the ports for both platforms and make it easy to port from one to another, a new 3DS situation would be horrible.
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