PS3 predictionS now that it launched in all territories

I visited some other stores today but I only found two units in my town. And both boxes were already being held by customers. It's way too early to put a number on it, but I expect good sales.

Sales are pretty good I guess, but over here (Holland - Randstad) there are lots of units available. I just checked out 5 stores (MM, FRS, Dixons, Intertoys, Bart Smit) and they all had systems. The Intertoys guys sold 3 of the 16 systems they got. MM had ~25 units yesterday, and there were 10 left today.
 
One thing to keep in mind is that the money you are paying for the PS3 is good, very good value for the money.

A blu-ray player, 60GB HDD, HDMI, wireless connections, a controller and the gaming features.

For certain gamers it really isn't that big of a deal who don't care about blu-ray or the extra disk space, but for people who already own a HDTV and are interested in blu-ray this is a wonderful deal.

Anyway, there is no need to drop the price until the games to support the system comes out.

Speng.
 
Which brings up my other point... there's not going to be any reliable way to analyze EU hardware sales, as we don't even have the kind of inaccurate statistics that NPD provides. So it'll be guessing, and I'm quite sure people will guess based on what they'd like to see...

That about sums it all up.

Although there has been some high comedy in this thread so far, so I vote keep it open.
 
Which brings up my other point... there's not going to be any reliable way to analyze EU hardware sales, as we don't even have the kind of inaccurate statistics that NPD provides. So it'll be guessing, and I'm quite sure people will guess based on what they'd like to see...
The problem is that the situation can be quit different in for example in the uk than in germany.

I've read that the xbox 360 is quite popular in the uk, where here in Belgium (and yes I have and love my xbox 360) it doesn't seem to do very well.
 
The problem is that the situation can be quit different in for example in the uk than in germany.

I've read that the xbox 360 is quite popular in the uk, where here in Belgium (and yes I have and love my xbox 360) it doesn't seem to do very well.

They may have pulled them out of their hat, but vgcharts.org does have numbers for the major European countries for the year of 2006. The Brits are more technology minded and seem to go for the high-spec stuff a little mroe than the rest. At least, that's the impression I get from the figures of all consoles.
 
They may have pulled them out of their hat, but vgcharts.org does have numbers for the major European countries for the year of 2006. The Brits are more technology minded and seem to go for the high-spec stuff a little mroe than the rest. At least, that's the impression I get from the figures of all consoles.
I I think you are right about this one. I didn't saw it at that angle, but i've always had the impression that general they are a step ahead on the rest of us (europeans) technology wise.
 
My prediction is the same as it was before even in light of the lackluster EU launch as it's way to early to conclusively call anything. By 2011, WW marketshare:

- PS3: 40%
- 360: 35%
- Wii: 25%
 
It appears to be less of a bang than I expected, I wonder how things will have faired over the end of the weekend, when people aren't at work perhaps, or when they get paid.

I a friend's friend who bought one and too it back the same day for a 360, I say he is silly. Why buy it and not give it the benefit of the doubt. Obviously didn't want one much other than to check it out.

I for one was more than happy with my purchase.

I think despite the initial slow start in europe it will pick up, I dont think it was the best time for a launch but this year will do well for the machine I'm sure. It will take a long time though to catch up to 360 and at best it will edge the 360 imo in total sales.
 
I still think that the sheer amount of units shipped by Sony not selling through within 24 hours is mistakingly being considered a slow start ... It's a 599 machine right now, not a Wii! :D
 
Vgcharts.org numbers are just guesses. They usually change the datas when offical numbers appear. Keep in mind they posted theses numbers friday morning.......
 
Ok after hearing reports from some of our European members I am starting to question again the PS3's "not so good" future. If our European sample is any indication then PS3 is doing well considering the price tag.
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I wonder why dont gaming sites talk about the European launch in detail for more territories.

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imo, the European launch was actually pretty good. not many launches get ~1m on day 1. by speculation, they've sold 500k to 700k in 1 day, which is pretty good in my eyes.

Thats not a valid point since sony delaid the launch for 4 freaking months.

Ok after hearing reports from some of our European members I am starting to question again the PS3's "not so good" future. If our European sample is any indication then PS3 is doing well considering the price tag.

It did well in Japan and the US too in the first month. It will be the second, third and forth that will really tell the story and if the rest of the world is any indication (I dont see why europe would be a 180degree turn from the rest of the world) its not going to be pretty.
 
Its not valid because sony delayed the launch for 4 months to build up those 1m units. Ofcouse they still sold alot, but its not like something did something ground breaking delivering 1m units at launch (4months later).
 
Its not valid because sony delayed the launch for 4 months to build up those 1m units. Ofcouse they still sold alot, but its not like something did something ground breaking delivering 1m units at launch (4months later).
again, my point wasn't that Sony did a good job of supply, but that they still sold well. not many launches get 1m consoles on day 1, which is why they usually sell out. the ps3 launch in europe had more than usual supply, so even though they didn't sell out, i wouldn't say it was bad launch. maybe the numbers weren't what Sony was expecting, and maybe the numbers are low to what most would expect from a PlayStation console, but 500k-700k in 1 day is not bad imo.
 
Is it doing well if you do not factor in the price tag? That's a much more important question, IMO.

If price is ignored and only observe sales we also ignore the real consumer interest behind the big picture. Something that expensive shouldnt be doing that well.

Then again that depends from which perspective you are trying to see it. For example, even if its selling EXTREMELY well for something priced that much, you might wonder how developers would react since they only care about the absolute numbers. Besides they want to sell their games. And games are what keep a console moving and its sales alive.

So I agree from that perspective that it may not be all that good

From a different point of view you can point out that the relative sale difference between 360 and the PS3 isnt due to lack of interest, its solely due to price, so you actually know that the console can sell, it has the things that people want, they wish they could have it, they may even thing the price is justifiable, but they cant afford it. Consumers have too many things to spend money on, they set priorities. A console, even one that its worth every penny at a 600 price in their mind, probably isnt as high in the list compared to other priorities that need money. As I see it, the remainder disposable income after the first priorities are satisfied is what determines if the consumer will/can buy a console. In this case the current price reduces the real value of the left over disposable income they can spend on the console
So a price drop may actually make people run like crazy to get it

edit: btw if anyone has actual numbers of sales please post. It may have sold well even if we dont factor price
 
From a different point of view you can point out that the relative sale difference between 360 and the PS3 isnt due to lack of interest, its solely due to price, so you actually know that the console can sell, it has the things that people want, they wish they could have it, they may even thing the price is justifiable, but they cant afford it. Consumers have too many things to spend money on, they set priorities. A console, even one that its worth every penny at a 600 price in their mind, probably isnt as high in the list compared to other priorities that need money. As I see it, the remainder disposable income after the first priorities are satisfied is what determines if the consumer will/can buy a console. In this case the current price reduces the real value of the left over disposable income they can spend on the console
So a price drop may actually make people run like crazy to get it


Nicely put. I fall into the set you describe.
 
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The way I see it.

In NA it will take major mistakes by MS or nintendo to get sony out of the basement. Unless MS is stupid and does not drop the price this fall sony is going to get burried by the combo of GTA4+Halo3+pricecut.

It seems in europe the PS name will carry it to a second place finish behind the Wii. Sony had dispite all the bad press a good launch. I guess sales could tale off like in NA and japan after the intial rush but I think it will some but not enough to keep them from catching MS sometime next year.

In japan sony has second place locked up the 360 is dead there and nintendo is the king. Unless FF13 can get japanese gamers back to playing traditional games the PS3 will get killed by the Wii.

My guess right now on market share in 2010 would be Wii 40% MS 30% PS3 30%.
 
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