Playstation 5 [PS5] [Release November 12 2020]

Is it confirmed we can play ps4 games off an external hdd via usb? Im thinking of shuffling all my ps4 games onto external hdd to play remotely and keep the internal ssd primarily for ps5 oriented titles
 
I presume if you install a disc game to HDD, you'll still need to use the disc to enable it? The license isn't included on the HDD (to stop people selling HDDs full of PS4 games).
 
I presume if you install a disc game to HDD, you'll still need to use the disc to enable it? The license isn't included on the HDD (to stop people selling HDDs full of PS4 games).

Licences are at the account level. If you plugged in a HDD with a bunch of games, you'd only be able to play those with licences associated with your account. All others will have a padlock, but you'll still likely see them installed.
 
Because its unobtrusive. You don't want to see these items.

Why wouldn't you want to see things? Why must everything be unobtrusive?

I think people would be just happier if they stopped following these dogmas IMO.

Besides, once everything is black, then black becomes intrusive. When your cell, TV, AV receiver, surround sound system, console, furniture, paintings etc. are all black, you just end up with a dark and rather depressing room.
 
Why wouldn't you want to see things? Why must everything be unobtrusive?

I think people would be just happier if they stopped following these dogmas IMO.
it's not a dogma. Around me right now are several black forms, which fade into obscurity so I can ignore them and focus better on what I'm doing. If they were all bright colours and "look at me!!" designs, they'd be a source of distraction and look a mess, all conflicting with each other.

Would you prefer these over a black TV?

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I'm looking to get a new digital piano. There are options in bright red. At first glance, they have some style to them, but then I realise in the home, it'd stick out and be obtrusive. So I'll be picking black, like 99% of everyone else who wants the products making up the design foundation of their home to be low key, into which they can put the high-key items of their choosing. Some will like high-key consoles, so get a face-plate of paint-job console. That's a choice they have. For the mainstream though, these different boxes are wanted to fit together in the background.
 
If they were all bright colours and "look at me!!" designs, they'd be a source of distraction and look a mess, all conflicting with each other.
See? You have the solution: any other manufacturer must keep simple and unobstructive designs to not distract near a ps5.
People don't care, they just want.
 
And the price for an Origin PC?

I did a simulation with:

- Cheapest 8-core Zen2 they had, 3700X
- Cheapest RTX 2070 Super
- Cheapest motherboard
- 16GB of the cheapest memory they have
- The only 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe they have
- No software
- Xbox One controller


And I got $2453.


Hardware-wise, you get a more powerful CPU, a bit more storage and more system RAM. You lose a lot o I/O performance and lose a bit on GPU memory.
So assuming $500 for the PS5, this Origin PC similar specs goes for 5x the price.


I'm guessing if we could buy that case for e.g. $100 and make a full DIY PC we could go down to $1500-2000.
I absolutely love PC gaming for all its quirks and flexibility, but the value proposition just isn't the same.


Would you prefer these over a black TV?
Oh come on, those aren't single colored TVs, they're TVs with fugly patterns throughout the bezels.
This is one non-totally-black TV from Bang&Olufsen, and it's gorgeous.

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I'm looking to get a new digital piano.
Why not an used accoustic piano? Professional piano tuners usually know where to find great deals!
Or is it for music production?


There are options in bright red. At first glance, they have some style to them, but then I realise in the home, it'd stick out and be obtrusive. So I'll be picking black, like 99% of everyone else who wants the products making up the design foundation of their home to be low key, into which they can put the high-key items of their choosing.
You don't have to go with bright red. There should be other nice colors like cherry or mahogany.
 
Really concerned about prices. I think Sony with PS5 will be at 650 euro (diskless 450) and MS with XSX at 550 euro....
 
I'd prefer the look of a banana sat under my TV than either of those two.

Lol. That's how the comments go under their article :p

I'm guessing if we could buy that case for e.g. $100 and make a full DIY PC we could go down to $1500-2000.
I absolutely love PC gaming for all its quirks and flexibility, but the value proposition just isn't the same.

Origin PC is the last place to buy a gaming pc, their overly expensive, and their pc cases are horrible. Also, i guess that by the time consoles are hot, you could build a faster machine for 1200 dollars about. Atleast that's where the price usually lays at the beginning of a generation.
It's usually best to wait abit so prices come down and you get more value for what you pay.

I think Sony with PS5 will be at 650 euro (diskless 450)

Damn, what kind of blu ray drive are they fitting those machines with.
 
Oh come on, those aren't single colored TVs, they're TVs with fugly patterns throughout the bezels.
This is one non-totally-black TV from Bang&Olufsen, and it's gorgeous.
Okay, if you say so. And there are plenty of other non-pattern examples like:

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These just add visual conflict to the viewing of the image on them. And other devices like amps and consoles that are in view will also be in conflict.

You don't have to go with bright red. There should be other nice colors like cherry or mahogany.
There aren't though (not the stage pianos I'm looking at; console-pianos of course come in fake wood options. Wood is a comfortable, natural material that fits into most homes, so a wooden console would be an aesthetic option), and companies can't make products in a huge variety of colours to fit in with different people's decor.

Sony has produced limited edition colours, especially for PS2, and they know how well these do/don't sell

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MS produced XB360 faceplates in every variety...
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...but didn't continue that because no-one bought them.

"We don't ever create an accessory with the intent of having it fail", Penello says. "The idea wasn't bad... people used to put faceplates on their cell phones. Rewind five years, faceplates were what everybody wanted to do...It "turned out nobody bought it. So [we stopped] making them. We killed that one pretty quickly".​

Neutral colours for products that aren't art pieces makes a lot of sense which is why all the companies do it. If they could sell more with extreme colours, they would, but how well did Dyson do with this?

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I don't recall a huge shift in white-goods trends for colourful appliances. ;)

So in short, it's not a dogma that people are stupidly/blindly following. It's the current fashion since the garish 60s and a fashion that has remained very stable because it works in every circumstance. You see the push now for a little more sophisticated trimming and secondary colour flashes, even on cars, but 'look at me' design on things not intended to be looked at isn't a good idea for the mainstream. There's nothing wrong with you wanting some more variety, but don't put a consistency of black (and white and silver) goods down to short-sightedness on the part of companies making products or consumers not knowing a good thing when they're missing out on it.
 
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