It'll be intresting to see if it comes wwith a hybrid drive. It seems like it could be the route to go especially with new hybrid drives with 32GB of NAND on them coming out at the end of July. I hope even if they don't they work to make sure the file system allows the performance of SSD's to come through if used/ It seems like the PS3's system pretty hit and miss in this regard.
PlayStation 4 (codename Orbis) technical hardware investigation (news and rumours)
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That's great news. Thank for correcting me.
Def upgrading hdd when I pick up my ps4.
Cyan said this in the Xbox One thread- figured it'd better to bring it up here.
Can anybody deny\confirm this? Seems to me like this is totally nonsensical.. Why would Sony do this? So close to launch?
Guerrilla games started during the breakdown of their Feb game demo that they made it without the specialized hardware (audio processors etc) due to it being an 'older kit'- so they definitely have the kits with that stuff on them now.
Just for Sony to take it all away right now or in the foreseeable future even closer to launch? Why?
And isn't it too late now anyway given that the chips are going into production?
The only reason I put any credence in this is:
A lot of PS4 games seem to be struggling to hit 30 FPS, enough to make me wonder "what's wrong?". After all this was supposed to be the gazelle hardware not vice versa.
Second reason is 399. Maybe they had to really stretch at the last minute to hit it and took every last nonessential thing they could out? With the only untouchables being the CPU, GPU, and GDDR5 building blocks?
Overall I'd say 99% likely nothing has changed and all the specialty chips are still in, though.
Cyan should come in here and reveal more about his source though.
I don't see where this is an issue? The vast majority of games on PS4 seemed to run just fine, only Black Flag (AC) seemed to have any real problems. According to people at the booths playing the titles there didn't seem to be anything wrong.
Putting aside potential titles that aren't being played on devkit hardware and all that jazz (possibly BF4 for instance).
Have to look into this.
Really? What wrong is this hardware/software/OS/ dev tools is 6+ month away from launch.
There is a reason why a lot of games were shown on PC. Also we have no idea when these builds are from and what hardware they were even running on. COD dev say they havent gotten final hardware for any next gen consoles.
This is very silly.... We are talking about the low power chip that was used to handle back ground task while the system is off. How do you do that with this size apu. I do not think its even possible.
part of my info was from here. And I didn't look into it too deeply: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4
Anyways ERP's reply means you can likely put that "rumor" to bed.
Yep that's pretty much my point, so much shit so little useful discussion.
Just trying to point out how totally ludicrous some of this stuff is.
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Going back to the DSP and background processor stuff for just a second, I would think such a claim would need some additional evidence.
Other than them not working, it wouldn't be clear to me what the gain would be without more data on the components of the system.
If the extra units were on the SOC and merely fused off, there's no savings at all, aside from possibly not paying a license of outside IP if Sony put outside IP in its outside IP that then went into the outside IP of the SOC.
If not there, the background processor in particular could find a home on what is the south bridge of the console, and that's not performance-critical or really going to notice a tiny offload core being there or not.
Redesigning the silicon just to rip out tiny things would be a cost and delay risk.
Other than them not working, it wouldn't be clear to me what the gain would be without more data on the components of the system.
If the extra units were on the SOC and merely fused off, there's no savings at all, aside from possibly not paying a license of outside IP if Sony put outside IP in its outside IP that then went into the outside IP of the SOC.
If not there, the background processor in particular could find a home on what is the south bridge of the console, and that's not performance-critical or really going to notice a tiny offload core being there or not.
Redesigning the silicon just to rip out tiny things would be a cost and delay risk.
Cerny announced the secondary processor and mentioned the audio processor briefly in the Feb announcement. Sony won't be able to remove them quietly.
Besides, they really need a hardware security mechanism. The secondary processor may come in handy in that regard.
Their executives mentioned that $399 has always been their target. It doesn't make sense to announce the price and then remove the parts.
Besides, they really need a hardware security mechanism. The secondary processor may come in handy in that regard.
Their executives mentioned that $399 has always been their target. It doesn't make sense to announce the price and then remove the parts.
With such a weak CPU is extremely unlikely anything to help it out has been removed.
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