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Phil Harrison's GDC keynote - Home, LittleBigPlanet & more
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yes but I'm not inviting you over to my house to sit and chat
. At least 50% of my time on XBLive I have my profile disabled so I can bounce in and out of games at my leisure and only use my friends list for joining games that I want to play with friends.
I'm selfish that way.
I would bet invisibility would be an option though for home.
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Kind of silly... this is lightyears beyond anything Nintendo has even hinted at. The Mii style character creation are a fraction of what Home could/will offer and are probably the most insignificant part of Home.
I suppose you couldn't really expect them to do much else... just PR.
Fu3lFr3nzy
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Nintendo just had to put their $0.02 in dont they?
translation: we didnt have the hardware then(or now), so we'll just say the idea is "nixed" to say the least
/sarcasmI like the concept of Home seeing theres lots of potential there, but I wouldnt go as far as call it the XBL Live Killer yet (dont you just love sony fanboys?
)LittleBigPlanet was really cool. Though, I dont ill ever be on the creative side of that game
(ill just play other peoples created games thank you very much)mckmas8808
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Yeah right Nintendo. Such BS.
Nintendo just had to put their $0.02 in dont they?
To be fair, they were asked what they thought about it, but it definitely does seem like sour grapes.
I like the concept of Home seeing theres lots of potential there, but I wouldnt go as far as call it the XBL Live Killer yet (dont you just love sony fanboys?
You can't kill an online community like XBL that way. It might be more accurate to say HOME is a different creature altogether.
Well, Sony`s getting bashed for any remotly arguable PR-Statement (not that there is a lack of outright ridiculous ones).Nintendo just had to put their $0.02 in dont they?
translation: we didnt have the hardware then(or now), so we'll just say the idea is "nixed" to say the least
I like the concept of Home seeing theres lots of potential there, but I wouldnt go as far as call it the XBL Live Killer yet (dont you just love sony fanboys?
LittleBigPlanet was really cool. Though, I dont ill ever be on the creative side of that game
Now tell me calling Home a "Mii-too" approach aint silly? Did Sony really start Home in response of seeing Mii ?
If Home was the big system seller people are claiming it is, then wouldn't that kind of success have already happened with an MMORPG, at some point in the past?
Today, the only really successful MMORPG (WoW) doesn't have apartments or really any other "Sims" type features, and certainly doesn't base its success on those things. However, I already play another MMORPG in which I can:
1) own and furnish an apartment
2) have visitors in my apartment and visit theirs
3) show trophies of my achievements within my apartment
4) customize my avatar within spitting distance of Home
5) chat and interact with people in open or private social settings
6) play a variety of mini-games with others
7) watch others play those mini-games
And yet most of you probably wouldn't be able to name the game, and would never try it if you knew, just because it's an MMORPG and isn't WoW.
So what is it about Home that you think will conquer the MMORPG stigma?
1) is it just the fact that Home is free?
2) is it the fact that Home looks like "real life" and most MMORPGs are based on fantasy?
3) is it the integration with PSN services (which are, in themselves, unremarkable)?
4) is it just the new hotness?
I see LittleBigPlanet as a wonderful game announcement. It's innovative, it's the kind of cooperative game I've always wanted to see, and I've sorely wanted a new platformer. Great announcement. Nothing to do with Home.
On the other hand, Home is... well, it's Second Life without a subscription. I'm not that excited, maybe just because I already play MMORPGs, but I'm also waiting for the other shoe to drop. There has to be some revenue streams in Home somewhere. You don't host 6 million people (to take Live's example) without some kind of revenue stream.
Today, the only really successful MMORPG (WoW) doesn't have apartments or really any other "Sims" type features, and certainly doesn't base its success on those things. However, I already play another MMORPG in which I can:
1) own and furnish an apartment
2) have visitors in my apartment and visit theirs
3) show trophies of my achievements within my apartment
4) customize my avatar within spitting distance of Home
5) chat and interact with people in open or private social settings
6) play a variety of mini-games with others
7) watch others play those mini-games
And yet most of you probably wouldn't be able to name the game, and would never try it if you knew, just because it's an MMORPG and isn't WoW.
So what is it about Home that you think will conquer the MMORPG stigma?
1) is it just the fact that Home is free?
2) is it the fact that Home looks like "real life" and most MMORPGs are based on fantasy?
3) is it the integration with PSN services (which are, in themselves, unremarkable)?
4) is it just the new hotness?
I see LittleBigPlanet as a wonderful game announcement. It's innovative, it's the kind of cooperative game I've always wanted to see, and I've sorely wanted a new platformer. Great announcement. Nothing to do with Home.
On the other hand, Home is... well, it's Second Life without a subscription. I'm not that excited, maybe just because I already play MMORPGs, but I'm also waiting for the other shoe to drop. There has to be some revenue streams in Home somewhere. You don't host 6 million people (to take Live's example) without some kind of revenue stream.
Fixed?
At $499 -$599 value compared to what I already own and use has to be greater. :smile:
so:
Price + unique games + unique features + community all differentiating itself a reasonable value from what I'm currently experiencing to justify owning both consoles at said price = purchase.
they are getting there and home is an example of a step in that direction to a degree
Not terribly interested in this. Will check it out since it's free but don't see myself spending a lot of time embellishing my virtual home with personalized stuff or whatever. Then again, I have no interest in myspace either.
However, one cool idea was suggested by the Miiworld thing.
It would be cool if you could design a detailed avatar and then whenever you buy a game that lets you create a custom character, they could just import that avatar into any of those games.
So for instance, in a game like Tiger Woods, you could already import your ready-made avatar as a created player.
It could flow the other way too. What if a car you created or customized in something like GT could be parked in your virtual Home? Instead of just virtual trophies and achievements in your virtual Home trophy room, you'd have the cars in your virtual Home garage (everyone can have mansions with garages for dozens of cars in the virtual Home world.).
But probably, the graphics won't allow that kind of detail. Maybe if they interchange some basic data so that you'd render a simpler version of the car, avatar or whatever other objects in the Home world and then within a game, that same data would be used to render a more detailed object.
The main thing would be to save time, so you don't have to create or customize objects in every game.
However, one cool idea was suggested by the Miiworld thing.
It would be cool if you could design a detailed avatar and then whenever you buy a game that lets you create a custom character, they could just import that avatar into any of those games.
So for instance, in a game like Tiger Woods, you could already import your ready-made avatar as a created player.
It could flow the other way too. What if a car you created or customized in something like GT could be parked in your virtual Home? Instead of just virtual trophies and achievements in your virtual Home trophy room, you'd have the cars in your virtual Home garage (everyone can have mansions with garages for dozens of cars in the virtual Home world.
).But probably, the graphics won't allow that kind of detail. Maybe if they interchange some basic data so that you'd render a simpler version of the car, avatar or whatever other objects in the Home world and then within a game, that same data would be used to render a more detailed object.
The main thing would be to save time, so you don't have to create or customize objects in every game.
Johnny Awesome
Veteran
honestly the thing I liked best was the virtual Publisher rooms. I mean demos are cool and whatnot and I have them all day long on Live now but offering the virtual rooms may encourage Pubs to really expand on what they want to offer online as teasers or tie ins.
think of it as a virtual E3 booth. everybody wants (wanted) to have the best E3 booth.
think of it as a virtual E3 booth. everybody wants (wanted) to have the best E3 booth.
At the risk of sounding like a prude, I think real life blows that away. The world is moving further and further to a "brains in jars" existence where we only know people through technology. People right beside us are effectively nonexistent. I don't like that movement.
This is not strictly an anti-Sony thing, of course, and it has nothing to do with how successful Home will be or how well done it is. I'm just saying that if a night spent on the PS3 blows away any night I could spend otherwise, I'm pathetic.
Mr. Domino
Regular
Home should really support the Eye Toy for your avatar creation. It's a missed opportunity imo if they don't include it. But seeing that eye toy isn't mentioned in the trailer it seems this function is (still) lacking.
It also shows their implementation has to take much longer to launch. I mean, Miis are cute and all, but their primary purpose seems to be to mix personalization into the games, and it has quite little purpose online. Does Nintendo honestly think Sony said "hey, that Mii thing looks cute. Quick, whip up an enormous, expansible, player and developer-customizable 3D world for them and whip it out in a year!" Do they not understand their own development cycles?
<sigh>
I just get really tired at all the pointless lip companies give each other over things just due to their release date and measuring no other factors. I mean, does Sony get to chide Nintendo because of using the EyeToy to personalize player avatars in games, so even though the Mii makes the process simpler, more universal, and has more features?
And knowing how poorly Sony usually is on their first-gen software, if this launches well it'll just show how MUCH further back they were working on it.
Considering just how much of what ALL of them release that could be considered a "me too!" approach from the PC sphere, they should really just simmer down.
The RPG´s you play and were you meet other people locks you into that specific game, and you only meet those people when you login so while the social interaction can be compared the scope is just much much wider.
And the revenue stream is evident, make it free, get people onboard, offer them things they can buy, anything from movies, music to weird things that only exist in the Home world. And when the people are there, start selling advertising space for other companies.
Sony had to build a online precense, so they just did it on a grander and more visionary scale than the competition, when the infrastructure is there and the network is running i don´t think it will cost Sony a bunch to keep it running. And not as much as that extra plus it adds to the Playstation platform. Home is the Third Place and Sony should air those commercials again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7adXkMwf2-0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXMrZpGKfcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eAJUYPCa7g
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