Nvidia to discuss upcoming PRODUCT Line at ECTS

[ben6]

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/view.asp?IO=IO_20020827_3907

Hrm a little earlier than I expected , but if they're talking about the product line and not the technology at ECTS, maybe we'll get details this week

Ben

 

[alexsok]

Yep, read that earlier today.

I sure hope they will disclose details about NV30

 

[RussSchultz]

Not quite as interesting as product in hand, though.

 

[Ascended Saiyan]

I could care less about what they have to say,as long as I see photos of actual hardware on NV30 based boards.Since what they say will just be your run of the mill pr.

 

[Joe DeFuria]

Yeah, while I would look forward to finally hearing some "official info" on NV30, it wouldn't mean too much unless they at least have some beta / alpha silicon. That would demonstrate that they have some basis to be confident in whatever claims they will be making.

Without any silicon, it's hard to take any any info (particularly clock speed, availability, and price) as anything more than a highly optimistic, though educated, guess.

 

[antlers]

particularly clock speed, availability, and price

I expect that they won't be saying anything about these. I expect the only new solid information coming out of ECTS will be what the new chip will be called. We might receive some performance ranges (between xxx and yyy operations per second, between x and y effective bandwidth)

 

[Trawler]

Maybe we're jumping the gun here? They might only be announcing nv28.

 

[ben6]

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/view.asp?IO=IO_20020827_3907

In addition to showcasing those PC games that best take advantage of NVIDIA's current family of GeForce4 GPUs, NVIDIA is also gearing up to usher a new generation of GPUs based on CineFX(tm), NVIDIA's next-generation graphics processing architecture-a highly efficient and advanced rendering architecture featuring advanced programmability, high-precision color and industry-leading performance. Representatives from NVIDIA will be on hand to discuss the forthcoming product line, as well as Cg, the high-level programming language introduced earlier this year by NVIDIA, in close collaboration with Microsoft(r) Corporation.



Unless NV28 is the CineFX next generation archictecture based upon , that's not what they're talking about.

 

[RussSchultz]

As time goes on, it seems the NV28 may just be a "quiet" replacement of the NV25, similar to the Riva128Pro(!?) (I think that was a relatively un-fanfare-istic launch)

 

[ben6]

TNT2 Pro you mean?

 

[RussSchultz]

Hmm, there was a Riva128 that supported 4MB and then one shortly thereafter that supported 8. I don't remember it being a terribly big deal in the press

 

[KimB]

I'd just like to say that unless nVidia discusses things like memory interface, anisotropic filtering, or FSAA, there won't be much said that hasn't been said before. At most, we'd just have simple clarifications of what we've seen in the past (Yes, I believe it's too early for accurate clock speeds to be announced...).

 

[Geo]

Hmm, there was a Riva128 that supported 4MB and then one shortly thereafter that supported 8. I don't remember it being a terribly big deal in the press

128Z

 

[KimB]

Actually, I believe it was the Riva 128ZX.

Regardless, the Riva 128 architecture pretty much sucked. It was fairly fast for its day, but the image quality was horrid with respect to the competition. It should be obvious why the ZX wasn't received with much fanfare: nobody cared.

 

[Bigus Dickus]

NO NO NO... but the NV28 still has 86 million transistors!!! It MUST!!



Allright, so I don't think it does. It will be interesting to see who has to take part of the crow feast once we know for sure.

 

[KimB]

NO NO NO... but the NV28 still has 86 million transistors!!! It MUST!!



Allright, so I don't think it does. It will be interesting to see who has to take part of the crow feast once we know for sure.

Well, given that the NV18 is apparently the nForce2's northbridge, why can't the NV28 be an alternate northbridge?

The disparate increase in transitor count could be accounted for by two things:

1. Reduced number of pixel/vertex pipelines in the NV28 part.

2. The parts are for different markets (i.e. one for Hammer, another for Athlon). Given the on-die memory controller, I would guess that the Hammer would require far fewer transistors on non-graphics things on its Northbridge than other chipsets.

Probably a pipe dream that we'll have integrated DX8 graphics so quickly, but what else could the extra transistors account for, if they are indeed there?

 

[nggalai]

Hi there,

As time goes on, it seems the NV28 may just be a "quiet" replacement of the NV25, similar to the Riva128Pro(!?) (I think that was a relatively un-fanfare-istic launch)

Has there been any official information on the NV28 regarding its installation target? The only information on the NV28 I'm aware of is on that unreadable slide plus the information NV's CEO gave in that conference call. On the same slide, you'll find the NV18 which seems to be a core for an integrated chipset, and not meant for VGA boards. Hence,

<mode:speculation>

pershaps both NV28 and NV18 are meant for integrated chipsets?

</mode:speculation>

More information would be appreciated.

Regarding that small blurb on nvidia.co.uk: My guess is they may provide some information about the first couple of CineFX boards, don't go too much into specs (only features), and use the whole thingy as an introduction to the paper launch which might come in the next couple of weeks.

ta,
-Sascha.rb

P.S. please excuse my poor English, today. I've got a cold and am surrounded by Swiss Germans. -.rb

 

[nggalai]

Damn. Just realise Chalnoth beat me to it.

This would, btw, also explain the high gate count on the NV28 part.

*agrees to Chalnoth's posting*

*gets more coffee*

ta,
-.rb

 

[Grall]

Speaking of the Nforce2, what's the likelyhood in your opinion it will be possible to run both the integrated graphics AND an 'external' AGP card simultaneously? So far no chipset has had this ability, but with AGP8x allowing two AGP devices on the same port, it should at least in theory be possible. Or there could be two CPU-to-AGP bridges in there.

Not probable perhaps, but one could always WISH I guess... An easy ability to add dual-monitor capability to a system would make those integrated chipsets less of a waste of money, so I'm a little surprised no manufacturer has, not not thought of it because I'm sure they've considered the idea, but at least not acted upon it.


-FaaR-

 

[Saem]

From my understanding, Intel's integrated graphics chipsets can have both the internal and an external GFX chip up and running. I could be wrong.