NVIDIA GF100 & Friends speculation

Discussion in 'Architecture and Products' started by Arty, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. Mize

    Mize 3dfx Fan
    Moderator Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    Messages:
    5,048
    Likes Received:
    1,097
    Location:
    Cincinnati, Ohio USA
    Usually NV time - Pacific
     
  2. Mize

    Mize 3dfx Fan
    Moderator Legend Veteran

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    Messages:
    5,048
    Likes Received:
    1,097
    Location:
    Cincinnati, Ohio USA
    I'm so confused by the angst over Fermi. Isn't cool new tech simply cool new tech? These aren't football teams. They're fun-enablers and any new tech is good tech. Can't wait for real data.
     
  3. Neb

    Neb Iron "BEAST" Man
    Legend

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2007
    Messages:
    8,391
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    NGC2264
    +1

    pushing tech is always good and competition between graphic card producers is just a win-win situation for us consumers.
     
  4. annihilator

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Istanbul
    if some rumors I heard "behind scenes" is correct, this thing is going to perform amazing in DX11 tessellation mode of Unigine.
     
  5. CNCAddict

    Regular

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2005
    Messages:
    290
    Likes Received:
    2
    So assuming the Fermi can do 2 triangles/clock...what does this mean for real games like crysis? Would it be possible to double polygon counts without any hit in performance? Crysis would look a LOT better if things could be smoothed out a bit.
     
  6. Arty

    Arty KEPLER
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2005
    Messages:
    1,906
    Likes Received:
    55
    You dont need "behind scenes" rumors, Razor has said in this very thread that Fermi is upwards of 50% faster than Cypress in that benchmark.
     
  7. FrameBuffer

    Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2005
    Messages:
    499
    Likes Received:
    3
    and 220% faster than the GTX285 in games and demos. I can't wait, we need a good ol price war.
     
  8. Archaeolept

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2003
    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    0
    hah, I don't think that's likely to happen - except in a minor way.

    as has been pointed out here before, AMD needs profit desparately, and nvidia's manufacturing costs for the Fermi look to be very high. It will likely be in neither's interest to engage in anything more than a little price jiggling.
     
  9. mapel110

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2003
    Messages:
    150
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Germany
    With 8xAA there can be quite an impressive performance jump over GTX285.
     
  10. EduardoS

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2008
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    0
    Question about benchmarking tesselation, part of tesselation pipeline is vendor specific, if I understood correcltly it is the fixed function part, couldn't this part vary in quality from one too other too much making the comparison of fps pointless? And couldn't a vendor generate a lighter or heavier load based on "free" resources on the chip and so always keep the fps close to, let's say, 30 fps while other vendor just bypass?
     
  11. Razor1

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2004
    Messages:
    4,232
    Likes Received:
    749
    Location:
    NY, NY
    there is no fixed function portion to tesselation when it comes to coding or hardware. The code just runs better on a given hardware because of the hardware advantage.
     
  12. ninelven

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2002
    Messages:
    1,702
    Likes Received:
    117
    Since Fermi is supposed to support C++, I'd love to see a benchmark of the open source Stockfish chess engine. If anyone happens to get their hands on one... :|
     
  13. Sontin

    Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2009
    Messages:
    399
    Likes Received:
    0
  14. PSU-failure

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    May 3, 2007
    Messages:
    249
    Likes Received:
    0
  15. Razor1

    Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2004
    Messages:
    4,232
    Likes Received:
    749
    Location:
    NY, NY

    Yes and its quite a bit

    No, and there is quite a bit of an advantage to Fermi when it comes to shader complexiity.
     
  16. neliz

    neliz GIGABYTE Man
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2005
    Messages:
    4,904
    Likes Received:
    23
    Location:
    In the know
    X score with those P22K is 15K, as I said on XS, not sure if those numbers are legit.
    I assume they're fake but show up at DH a couple of hours later..

    edit: DVI single link nFinity, aftertought or patchjob?
     
  17. ChrisRay

    ChrisRay <span style="color: rgb(124, 197, 0)">R.I.P. 1983-
    Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2002
    Messages:
    2,234
    Likes Received:
    26
    Poor Tom Peterson. Vegas to PDX LAN. He looks tired.
     
  18. Tchock

    Regular

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2008
    Messages:
    849
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    PVG
    :wink:
    Probably can't transfer too much data over SLI either- perhaps one reason why CF doesn't allow Eyefinity 6.
     
  19. PSU-failure

    Newcomer

    Joined:
    May 3, 2007
    Messages:
    249
    Likes Received:
    0
    So, why choose P score if X would give it the lead anyway?

    Something doesn't add up.
     
  20. Sontin

    Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2009
    Messages:
    399
    Likes Received:
    0
    Single Link? Did you know that they need twice the bandbwith with 3D Stereo and 120Hz?
     
Loading...

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Beyond3D has been around for over a decade and prides itself on being the best place on the web for in-depth, technically-driven discussion and analysis of 3D graphics hardware. If you love pixels and transistors, you've come to the right place!

    Beyond3D is proudly published by GPU Tools Ltd.
Loading...