NVIDIA GF100 & Friends speculation

Discussion in 'Architecture and Products' started by Arty, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. digitalwanderer

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    I'm not knocking or disagreeing with you Charlie, but a number of nVidiots have been telling me that some AIBs have working silicon....I can feel safe in calling them liars? (Personally I think they are, but I'd like at least some level of verification first. ;) )

     
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    And you translated a disappointment from a video of a benchmark into "drawing far reaching conclusions". Instead of going after the ball, you go after the man. Instead of arguing against my opinions, you try to discredit and patronize them. Whats your agenda?

    I mean, at first you are complaining that the leaked video I am referring to is not released or shown publicly from Nvidia and then you say that the benchmark is (as in is, not can be) run on a stripped down Fermi part because you read that on a chinese forum. Its like your're washing the posts through an Nvidia pr agency putting a spin to them. I'm just disappointed with what I have seen so far. I expected more. Deal with it.
     
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    It was a stripped down version, those are engineering samples they used, its common practice.
     
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    Thanks Razor, btw you should retire your sig now, Charlie was right after all.
     
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    60% over GT200 from a 448-core Fermi in an older title seems ok to me. What were your expectations?

    With respect to the rest of your post there's no need to get emotional. Not a single one of my statements was directly at you personally. As I said before I was simply pointing out that your deep disappointment is based on incomplete information and lots of guesswork. I'm sorry if that offends you in some way.

    The chinese post comes into play because it correlates with the GTX285 and HD5870 numbers from PCGH. Pointing that out doesn't equate to taking it as gospel truth though.
     
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    Interesting thing to note is that Far Cry 2 is a game that supports upto DX10.1 . Seems DX10.1 used for improvements though Nivida GPU might use this to, no?

    Also ATI CCC settings please (AI setting) and Nvidia CP quality setting. This can make a drastic difference.
     
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    Older titles won't see the same benefits as newer titles, estimates based on what people are saying who saw demos/games running on Fermi ~1.8 X faster then a gtx 285 on older titles, newer titles up to 2.2 X faster for a full Fermi chip.
     
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    So can we say that GTX 380 is 512 core chip ? and GTX 360 is 448 ?
     
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    Is there a way to put AIB/IHVs under an NDA to not be able to say they do NOT have any chips yet? I'd think they could only not talk about it after they had chips. :???:
     
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    Specifically I said Fermi's tessellation engine is impressive. I think its the biggest investment Nvidia has put into a new API to accellerate new API features in a very long time. And what I mean by that is Nvidia's tessellation engine certainly not implemented in a half assed way. And I stand by that statement :) Its not long from now when everyone will have all their information about it.
     
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    well they are under NDA they shouldn't comment on it at all either way.
     
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    Links pls
     
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    Yup.. from the Nv3x to G80.. geometry setup has improved what? By a factor of two? Improving geometry setup is something that needs to be done... So did Fermi do that? ;)
     
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    New API? That is a strange choice of words ... we are talking about DirectX 11 tessellation right?
     
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    I'm still amazed that NDA expiration is so close and there have been no big leaks. How did Nvidia contain things this time?

    Now I'm sure a lot of people already have info behind the scenes but I expected slides or something to have been posted by now. That link DavidGraham just posted says something about info being released tomorrow but it's going to be Monday for a global release? Does anyone have solid info on when the NDA actually expires?

    It's really fascinating to watch. The anti-Fermi campaign is in full swing. :)

    If the rumours are true then colour me surprised as well. I didn't expect piss-poor geometry performance but I also didn't expect big things. Knowing Nvidia they will try to push any perceived advantage so it'll be interesting to see how they try to influence developers if they in fact have a big advantage in geometry processing.
     
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    People that I know that have seen demo's and games being run. People that were at CES and after and the same people that told me about the geomtery performance, in synthetic tests the % difference is even more pronounced.
     
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    GMT or EST or ...? :)
     
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