NVIDIA G92 : Pre-review bits and pieces

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  1. Jawed

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    OK, I'm really confused now, I thought G80 was 1 triangle per clock setup rate?!!!

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  2. Arun

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    I thought that too at one point, so I can't blame you - my own test, as well as others' (including 3DMark06's) are very clear however: triangle setup is 0.5/clk. The triangles getting rejected based on depth tests don't seem to be an exception either...

    If anyone knows of a case where you can get up to 1 tri/clk outside of backface culling, please let me know. I certainly cannot seem to find one, however! As for how the different chips on the market compare (speculated for unannounced products; note that I haven't been able to test most of those with my own tool):

    R600/RV670/RV630: 1 tri/clk.
    RV610: 0.5 tri/clk (iirc).

    G92/G80/G84: 0.5 tri/clk.
    G86/G98: 0.25 tri/clk (iirc).
     
  3. AnarchX

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    Thx, but I found already some pictures:
    http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
    Seems good...
     
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    It doesn't matter what specs are LESS than the R600's because in real world performance its faster than the R600 and the G80 8800GTS! Speed is what counts and my lowly 2900XT loses to this. Now as far as the new RV670 and R680's due out shortly, thats another story. Hopefully they'll be strong performers. As for now, its useless to say the 8800GT has lesser specs than anything out now because in the end it is MUCH FASTER. However, if I'm spending my hard earned cash I would like some DX10.1 implementation just for the hell of it. New tech should always have the newest features.
     
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    It's quite loud at boot-up, but in normal (3D-)operation we've measured no more than 0,8 sone, which is reasonably quiet.

    This did, in fact, surprise me as well since i was willing to bet on a loud cooling solution when i first saw the tiny fan.
     
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    What would classify as a "normal" 3d operation? Light gaming?
     
  7. IbaneZ

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    It's thin, but not tiny. :smile:

    [​IMG]
     
  8. phenix

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    What is the board length? Does it fits to HTPC cases?
     
  9. Geo

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    Seems to be same length as GTS. So around 9"
     
  10. AnarchX

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    http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/showthread.php?t=4190
    :wink:


    But I also heard it is some times only 0.5.
     
  11. Hanners

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    Yep, it's actually exactly the same length.
     
  12. CarstenS

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    65mm diameter counts as tiny in my book. especially if it's got to get rid of about 105 Watts. :)

    About 30 Minutes of AA'ed and AF'ed 3DMark03-Nature-Loop (granted, not literally "gaming") with no title screens inbetween, i.e. continous load.
     
  13. Geo

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    Well, they do get points for single slot in my book, even if it comes with a temporarily annoying loud boot-up whir.
     
  14. Tim Murray

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    It's like three seconds. I think you're making a bigger deal of it than it really is...
     
  15. SirPauly

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    World of WarCraft was a great test subject for "EATM" and was very welcomed. Too bad it was tak'n out.

    Example1:
    SSAA:
    http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/296/wowssaavh1.jpg

    EATM:
    http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/6603/woweatmzt7.jpg

    Example 2:
    SSAA:
    http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/746/westfallssaauu1.jpg

    EATM:
    http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8849/westfalleatmho5.jpg
     
  16. Geo

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    Hey, I owned an X1900XT. I know from boot-up whirs. :razz: I didn't intend to make a big deal out of it in the sense of suggesting it was a reason for someone to not buy the card. I'd easily trade getting single-slot for 3 seconds of boot-up whir. Having said that, I don't see a rational reason why the boot-up whir really should be there in these cases when it ought to be fixable (whether it be X1900XT or 8800GT). Picking at nits? Youbetcha. That's the way progress is made.
     
  17. vertex_shader

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    Its not 754Mt?
     
  18. SirPauly

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    Is it possible to run the fan quickly for a short time to make sure no dust builds up with-in the cooler?
     
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    Geo, have you missed my explanation for the bootup thingy in post #20?
     
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    Million triangles? Not sure how that would be related to the die size or process node though..
     
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